: But that doesn't mean he's the only one who has.
: Presumably one also needs the Dream of Unlife to
: create other Undead beings such as Soulless, who's
: creation is credited to Soulblighter.
The reality is that, according to scripture and gospel, the soulless, unlike the Messengers of the Culwayth or the Children of Bahl'al or the alien women walking in the skins of men, are never supplied with a genesis, nor any hint of a creator.
It's foolish to assume they are Soulblighter's doing (or related to the dream of unlife), as soulless are as evident and persistent as our own universe- always there, everpresent, without known creation.
: When you say creator of the Thrall do you assume he is
: the sole creator of the Thrall or the inventor.
They are known as the "Children of Bahl'al," after all, and as far as anyone knows, all Bahl'al had done after finding the dream was raise an unending supply of corpses, and have units under his command march toward a city.
: World War I, Verun Somme, and so on and on and on. But
Sorry, you kind of trailed off there.
: Excuse me but did you just say FACT, since when does it
: say for a FACT that the Baron was only hoarding them,
: please tell me exactly where it says that that is a
: F.A.C.T.
Since you insist, if you listen to or read the journal for 'Into the Breach,' you will see that, by night, dozens of bodies in wagons were being wheeled into his keep. His actions are described as 'his unwholesome trade in human remains,' inferring some sort of black market, where he purchases them.
That's all- no mention of necromancy (except for the fact that he hold stygans, but stygans are another matter entirely) or anything of the sort.
: Also we know that dead bodies go into the keep and
: thousands of thrall come out. So it is quite safe to
: assume that whatever makes the Thrall go is in that
: castle. Also the armies belonging to the Baron as is
: stated in the qoute, "Only then will HIS army of
: the dead be put to rest."
That's patently untrue- the army was described, in Gonen's Bridge, as "marching toward us" not "coming out of the keep." The pregame pic, unfortunately, is only of an angle towards the East, and shows no massed army, though something is definitely on the road from the East towards the castle.
Implied in the courtyard, by the way, are flames from the castle itself.
And as for 'his' army, Tommy Franks has an army, Patton had an army, Pershing had an army, but none of the listed's armies are actually 'theirs.'
: Your assuming that Bahl'al was the only person capable of
: creating Thrall. In the game there is no suggestion
: that that is the case. Once that assumption is removed
: your theory is severly weakened.
I don't see how it could be- that there were Thrall in M2 is a minor point, since the entire Bahl'al = Watcher hypothesis was based on a pre-release website and two mentions of one city under siege.
As for anyone else creating thrall, well, that position as a counterproof of anything is so tenuous that it couldn't possibly stand- after all, there is nothing in evidence to say that anyone BUT Bahl'al was manufacturing thrall.
And even if someone else was, don't you think they would be given some other variety of equipment, at least once?
: And yours is perfect i presume.
Thank you- I do try my best, and you know I wouldn't put this forth if I wasn't confident in my assertions.
: Also your theory on the failing of corpses within sixty
: years is weakened in this Myth II Thrall qoute, "
: but also by the plunder of catacombs, crypts and
: cemeteries of a thousand years." The bodies of
: thousands of years ago were usable, why can't one of
: sixty years ago still be going?
First, that's poetic, and probably not meant to be literal.
Second, like I said, corpses cannot exist in such a state for sixty years- they decay. It's not the dream of freshness, it's the dream of unlife.
As for the 'thousand years,' are you aware of the number of cemeteries in our own world that are centuries old? The adjective (in this case, a number) is referring to the catacombs and crypts.
And besides that, how old do you think soulless are, exactly? Skulls, ectoplasm (which my spellchecker says is an actual word) and some upper-body bones, soulless could potentially last forever. However, I feel that the age of the crypts that some of the undead are found in (which could very easily house recently dead plunder) isn't relevant.
