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Re: Bahl'al and the Watcher (controversial)

Posted By: Loki (ccraqblftn.islc.net)
Date: 4/15/2003 at 2:55 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Bahl'al and the Watcher (controversial) (Martel)

: Sadly, this is where your theory starts to fall apart.
: You're assuming both that Bahl'al never taught anyone
: else the dream and that it's not possible to raise the
: dead with anything short of dream magic.

In the text, Bahl'al was told as 'searching' for the dream of unlife

As I'm certain we're all aware, Dreams, in the myth world, are *physical objects.* Every day or so, Alric himself generates one, and shades, being dead, generate evil dreams, described as 'energon cubes.'

Of course, while this indeed IS a grey area, there is no evidence whatsoever to show that Bahl'al had been consorting with (and not just contracting for) anyone else. Further, there is no evidence that anyone else even can raise thrall- all that is stated is that the Baron was hoarding corpses and that Phelot was deciding which among the living would be fodder and which would be thrall. Verbs: hoarding, deciding, not 'transforming' or anything else that could be construed as they making Thrall themselves.

:You're
: assuming that they're called 'the Children of Bahl'al'
: after their sole creator and not after their first
: creator. Your timescale argument assumes that Bahl'al
: searched for the dream of unlife because Balor ordered
: him to,

This is patently untrue.

Had you read my thesis, you would have discovered that it was impossible for Bahl'al to be ordered to do anything of the sort, as he went searching all the way back in the wind age, before Connact was even born.

It's laughable to consider that Balor (a 1000-year old Connacht) had the thrall invented for his own purposes, when the texts clearly show that the Thrall were around long before he, back in the Wind age at least.

: And, much as it's nice to see someone bring in a few
: original ideas for once, that /is/ a lot of
: assumptions to be making.

The original assumption presented by forrest (and ineptly challenged, resulting in Myth 3's debacle), that the Watcher was Bahl'al, was based on so very many more empty and *baseless* assumptions than my hypothesis.

All my assumptions have scripture to back them up.

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