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Re: Even more Tolkien defence

Posted By: greygelgoog (ACA176DC.ipt.aol.com)
Date: 3/3/2003 at 3:02 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Even more Tolkien defence (Deathknight (the same))

My only complaint is that, regardless of the source, a great piece of literature should present its moral conflict in such a two-dimensional way (I hated Billy Budd on the same logic). Just because it's inspired by nordic mythology doesn't mean that a character can't be ethically fleshed out. Arguing about its roots in mythology or that there was no established fantasy genre at the time (the Mabinogian Tetralogy doesn't count, I guess) doesn't justify an uninspired view of good versus evil.
"...and their right hands were raised in menace against mankind." sieg zeon

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Some new flavor texts
Seraph (adsl-64-171-6-161.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 2/7/2003 at 2:49 p.m.
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  Ghôlsbane (194.200.95.218) -- 2/7/2003 at 4:09 p.m.
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    Seraph (adsl-64-171-6-161.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 2/7/2003 at 5:27 p.m.
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  Myrmidonnes (hor-ramsay208.hor.ucl.ac.uk) -- 2/25/2003 at 4:16 p.m.
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    sorangath (host213-122-66-207.in-addr.btopenworld.com) -- 2/25/2003 at 4:28 p.m.
    - Thanks~!
      Myrmidonnes (hor-ramsay208.hor.ucl.ac.uk) -- 2/25/2003 at 5:46 p.m.
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    Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 2/26/2003 at 9:13 a.m.
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      Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 2/26/2003 at 10:52 a.m.
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 2/26/2003 at 1:02 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 2/27/2003 at 9:40 a.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 2/28/2003 at 10:15 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 2/28/2003 at 2:36 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (ras1-p144.tlv.netvision.net.il) -- 3/1/2003 at 1:31 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 12:52 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/3/2003 at 1:23 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 2:48 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:14 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/4/2003 at 12:59 p.m.
        
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        Tleilaxu (pcp651327pcs.bbridg01.fl.comcast.net) -- 3/10/2003 at 3:48 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (ACA7BB16.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/10/2003 at 3:55 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/11/2003 at 9:06 a.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:49 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/4/2003 at 12:59 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/5/2003 at 11:01 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/5/2003 at 2:11 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (ACA176DC.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 3:12 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:55 a.m.
        
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        Ghôlsbane (194.200.95.218) -- 3/3/2003 at 1:41 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 2:15 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:17 a.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:58 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/4/2003 at 1:00 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/5/2003 at 9:16 a.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/5/2003 at 11:00 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/5/2003 at 2:10 p.m.
        
        ADMIN shut up Shut Up SHUT UP!
        Superfoborg (term1-22.vta.west.net) -- 3/6/2003 at 12:23 a.m.
        
        ........
        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/6/2003 at 8:58 a.m.
        
        Apologies
        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/6/2003 at 3:55 p.m.
        
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        Superfoborg (term2-23.vta.west.net) -- 3/6/2003 at 11:07 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/7/2003 at 10:52 a.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/4/2003 at 9:39 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/4/2003 at 1:03 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/5/2003 at 9:27 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/5/2003 at 2:10 p.m.
        
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        Martel (inktomi2-ltn.server.ntl.com) -- 3/6/2003 at 5:47 p.m.
        
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        Superfoborg (term2-23.vta.west.net) -- 3/6/2003 at 11:16 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/7/2003 at 10:52 a.m.
        
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        Superfoborg (term1-19.vta.west.net) -- 3/8/2003 at 2:00 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC9E4BB9.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/7/2003 at 12:14 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/7/2003 at 10:52 a.m.
        
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        Superfoborg (term2-26.vta.west.net) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:06 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/5/2003 at 2:10 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (ras1-p144.tlv.netvision.net.il) -- 3/1/2003 at 1:37 p.m.
        
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        Olorin (host217-46-154-140.in-addr.btopenworld.com) -- 3/1/2003 at 5:49 p.m.
        
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        Martel (cache2-nrth.server.ntli.net) -- 3/2/2003 at 12:47 p.m.
        
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        Olorin (host217-36-205-158.in-addr.btopenworld.com) -- 3/2/2003 at 3:30 p.m.
        
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        Ed (webcacheH12a.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 3/2/2003 at 3:39 p.m.
        
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        Martel (cache2-nrth.server.ntli.net) -- 3/2/2003 at 7:41 p.m.
        
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        Ed (webcacheW04b.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 3/3/2003 at 12:41 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 3:07 p.m.
        
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        Ed (webcacheW04b.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 3/3/2003 at 3:50 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 4:22 p.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 2:09 p.m.
        
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        Martel (inktomi2-ltn.server.ntl.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 5:51 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC995646.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/2/2003 at 8:37 a.m.
        
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        Olorin (host217-36-199-208.in-addr.btopenworld.com) -- 3/2/2003 at 9:52 a.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC9175CD.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/2/2003 at 4:02 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 3/3/2003 at 12:40 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (ACA176DC.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 3:02 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (ACAF9FF5.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/4/2003 at 7:17 a.m.
        
        OMG. just... OMG. *NM*
        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/3/2003 at 9:36 a.m.
        
        erm...
        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/3/2003 at 10:39 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/3/2003 at 2:13 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/4/2003 at 10:25 a.m.
        
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        Phil (static-64-65-138-250.mspcovdsl.eschelon.com) -- 3/4/2003 at 1:04 p.m.
        
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        Ed (webcacheW04b.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 3/4/2003 at 3:21 p.m.
        
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        Ed (webcacheW04b.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 3/4/2003 at 3:23 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/5/2003 at 9:35 a.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC81C10B.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/5/2003 at 2:44 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC969C72.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/6/2003 at 6:29 a.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/6/2003 at 9:02 a.m.
        
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        Superfoborg (term2-10.vta.west.net) -- 3/6/2003 at 9:54 a.m.
        
        hrm... that works, I guess =) *NM*
        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/6/2003 at 10:08 a.m.
        
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        Ed (webcacheH07a.cache.pol.co.uk) -- 3/6/2003 at 12:17 p.m.
        
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        Deathknight (the same) (cache20-1.israsrv.net.il) -- 2/27/2003 at 12:05 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 2/27/2003 at 12:40 p.m.
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      Gothmog (ool-43562621.dyn.optonline.net) -- 2/26/2003 at 1:57 p.m.
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        Ilex (e8e7.yhteys.mtv3.fi) -- 3/15/2003 at 6:19 a.m.
        
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        Ilex (51e7.yhteys.mtv3.fi) -- 3/21/2003 at 3:30 a.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/21/2003 at 9:08 a.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC8D0D84.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/21/2003 at 12:09 p.m.
        
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        Martel (inktomi2-ltn.server.ntl.com) -- 3/21/2003 at 1:05 p.m.
        
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        Seraph (adsl-64-171-5-136.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 3/23/2003 at 7:53 p.m.
        
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        Martel (inktomi2-ltn.server.ntl.com) -- 3/23/2003 at 8:20 p.m.
        
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        Doom (207.239.12.200) -- 3/24/2003 at 9:14 a.m.
        
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        Superfoborg (sbccgw1.sbcc.net) -- 3/24/2003 at 2:50 p.m.
        
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        greygelgoog (AC8A4A28.ipt.aol.com) -- 3/24/2003 at 3:07 p.m.
        
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        Seraph (adsl-64-171-5-136.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) -- 3/24/2003 at 8:06 p.m.

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