: hmm but keep in mind the deceiver beat the watcher in a
: magical duel....
: but the watcher beat the deceiver in 7 gates with his
: army... at least story wise...
The Watcher started stronger...Myrdred was all pumpred up with Mjarin's magic, and that duel probably would have been close as Bahl'al was still WAY more experienced than him, so I'd say even until later thatn that they were evenly matche,d even unitl near the Great War mb...but by that time the Deciever had matured and was the stonger: he beat the Watcher at Tyr, but then again he was also defeated at the Pass...