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Re: mantle of the leveller
Posted By: Doom (207.239.12.200)
Date: 2/11/2003 at 9:20 a.m.
In Response To: Re: mantle of the leveller (Gothmog)
: yea, but the point was that it wasn't one object that
: lasted forever. it was an object studied by the hero
: and then recreated by the hero when he had a certain
: weakness of mind. a mantle could be an object that is
: worn like a helm, although unlikely, maybe it is a
: cloak, or a medallion. but the point is, maybe the
: leveller spirit, is really a powerful dream spell that
: manifests itself as an object(at user's discression)
: so it could be balors sword, his helm, his cloak,
: anything, but by wearing that, he has the powers of
: the leveller, and when another hero presents himself,
: the item is known to him, even if others do not know,
: because he is destined to take that object and study
: it, and becme the leveller.
That goes against every theory on the leveller previously made, you know. It just doesn't make sense. "The mantle of the leveller" is EXTREMELY likely to be a metaphorical expression, not referring to any object, but the possession of the man by the spirit. It's sort of like the expression "Coming into the purple" for a person who's becoming king/queen, or "a cloak of darkness covering the land". The expressions aren't literal, and they don't refer to any object. Certain things (colors, clothing, etc) have connotations to other things: If you wear a cloak, with the hood drawn up, it's hard to tell who you are, lack of knowledge is associated with darkness, and thus the expressions "cloak of darkness". If you were to continue this thought: Mantle is being equated with the position or status of being leveller, and to don (put on) the "mantle of the leveller" is to become the leveller. A mantle/cloak has never, never been thought of as associated with artifacts of any kind, thus the writers of Myth, if they had any idea whatsoever what they were doing (which they certainly seem to, if I do say so myself), they would be using it simply as an expression such as I have heretofore referenced.
THERE! Argue with THAT, if you want. ;b =)
: points at balor's really cool sword. alric could have
: gone and thrown the head in for show,
Wasn't Balor's head still talking post-"mortum"? And wasn't Soulblighter trying to kill all of the remainder of the Legion to prevent them from throwing it in the Great Devoid? It seems to me that, if it was talking, it sort of suggests that it wasn't for show; and if Soulblighter wants to get his hands on it (check out the loss pic for The Great Devoid level), it would be somehow useful to him, or his leader. Of course, it's all just circumstantial evidence, but.... (AIYA!)
and gone back to
: get the sword and studied it, of course, for the
: purpose of maybe undoing the leveller, but by doing so
: really learning how to make its magics through and
: through. then when soulblighter unthinkingly presents
: himself as a target, alric, who is still in a sain
: mind frame, creates Balmung for the purpose of
: defeating soulblighter. it doesn't work though,
: because soulblighter is still alive because of the
: same magics that balors sword is still working and
: holding together, and so balmung breaks, and when it
: breaks, a little of the leveller magic in alric is
: released and he is able to kill soulblighter, and
: maybe unknowingly ending the cycle, because his
: experiance with the magic of the leveller so early on
: in his time with it acted as a vaccine, and therefor,
: he will not become the leveller.
The hell you say?
: Gothmog
Dom!
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