: Well done Jackal. You are in many respects correct. If we
: look into the bete versions of Myth when Avatara was a
: unit and not just Alric there were 14 names, Caliban
: was one of them. The Alliance quote existed at the
: same time so its clear that they were intended to be
: the same.Of course he could be avatara and king.
: Always hand to know more myth name origins, here are a
: few more.
: Madrigal is a music term and Tyr was a Nordic god of war.
: -zeph
does that make caliban one of the nine?
Gothmog