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Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Posted By: The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se)
Date: 12/11/1999 at 12:50 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants... (Forrest)
: My thoughts on all this: The Watcher is Bahl'al - that is
: certain. He is dead as a doorknob - the "Where
: did he go?" comment reffered to that shade who
: dissappears (and yes, I have seen that shade teleport
: away and reappear later, though I don't remember the
: circumstances).
That's "dead as a doornail", Forrest...
: Soulblighter was always corrupt. Thus he is an ancient
: evil. He was around in Connacht's time, and probably
: helped defeat Moagim. He could have even been one of
: Moagim's converted Fallen, who was brought back to the
: light by Connacht, similar to the Deceiver in Myth II.
: Maybe he was wholly good other than that seed of
: corruption, until Connacht disappeared and Damas ran
: off into the Untamed Lands to learn immortality. We
: don't know the details, only that he was evil way back
: when, and he served once Connacht. Soulblighter is
: essentially dead; he's still got a heart lying around
: in the Untamed Lands, and perhaps some crow-spirits,
: but without a body he's as good as dead.
What...? The Deceiver was an avatara to begin with. I haven't heard of anyone who was originally evil brought back to the Light. Damas looks quite healthy in the picture in "Tales from Myth." What great evil person has ever looked anything but deformed or at least odd in a lot of ways?
: The Faceless Man is likely Connacht's right-hand-man in
: Tales From Myth. But he's turned from the light,
: right? If he was around in Connacht's time he must be
: an ancient evil, shouldn't he? No. Being turned from
: the light does not preclude ancientness. "Ancient
: evil" means one who is ancient AND was evil long
: ago. "Turned from the Light" simply means
: that they were not evil long ago, but have only
: recently become evil. Soulblighter became evil in the
: Wind Age after Connacht disappeared. The Faceless Man,
: while he is ancient, has only recently become evil. He
: died before the War in the West, fighting Gower or the
: Bruig.
Has anyone considered the possibility that the person standing next to Damas is Mazzarin? He does look a LOT like an avatara to me (he's wearing almost the exact same outfit as Alric does in TFL). There is nothing that would say The Watcher hadn't killed him by then. And I don't see why Connacht wouldn't use avataras either.
Peter Isotalo
Messages In This Thread
- Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Pimpyō (sdn-ar-001ilchicp006.dialsprint.net) -- 12/10/1999 at 2:08 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Pimpyō (sdn-ar-001ilchicp006.dialsprint.net) -- 12/10/1999 at 3:13 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Killing duck (195.181.91.134) -- 12/10/1999 at 10:04 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Pimpyō (sdn-ar-001ilchicp310.dialsprint.net) -- 12/10/1999 at 10:56 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Killing duck (195.181.91.234) -- 12/11/1999 at 6:18 a.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Forrest (cache3.avtel.net) -- 12/11/1999 at 11:11 a.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Smeagol (spider-to025.proxy.aol.com) -- 12/11/1999 at 11:49 a.m.
- Mazzarin
Drunken Ghol (pm25ap.icx.net) -- 12/13/1999 at 3:08 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Forrest (cache3.avtel.net) -- 12/13/1999 at 5:50 p.m.
- I told you so...
The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se) -- 12/14/1999 at 2:00 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Drunken Ghol (pm25al.icx.net) -- 12/15/1999 at 8:18 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Forrest (cache3.avtel.net) -- 12/15/1999 at 10:17 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se) -- 12/15/1999 at 11:30 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Forrest (cache2.avtel.net) -- 12/16/1999 at 7:57 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se) -- 12/17/1999 at 4:11 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Wrock (d185d0c33.rochester.rr.com) -- 12/15/1999 at 9:28 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
SiliconDream (mates.hip.berkeley.edu) -- 12/16/1999 at 4:51 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Forrest (cache2.avtel.net) -- 12/16/1999 at 6:43 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
SiliconDream (mates.hip.berkeley.edu) -- 12/16/1999 at 8:42 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Forrest (cache2.avtel.net) -- 12/17/1999 at 10:03 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
SiliconDream (mates.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 12/1/1999 at 10:36 a.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Forrest (cache2.avtel.net) -- 12/1/1999 at 5:52 p.m.
- Mazzarin & Ceiscoran...
Pimpyō (sdn-ar-002ilchicp037.dialsprint.net) -- 12/17/1999 at 3:16 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
Milk Man (ip48.herndon21.va.pub-ip.psi.net) -- 12/16/1999 at 1:19 p.m.
- Re: Mazzarin
The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se) -- 12/16/1999 at 6:55 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se) -- 12/11/1999 at 12:50 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Killing duck (195.181.91.232) -- 12/12/1999 at 10:47 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Dan Rudolph (helser-165-65.res.iastate.edu) -- 12/15/1999 at 4:02 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
SiliconDream (169.2.242.36) -- 12/10/1999 at 3:15 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
The Crimson King (inktomi2.algonet.se) -- 12/11/1999 at 12:37 p.m.
- Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Obsidian (port12.baldcom.net) -- 12/13/1999 at 1:24 p.m.
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