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Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...
Posted By: Joyeuse (ptp86.kctc.net)
Date: 12/11/1999 at 10:14 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants... (SiliconDream)
: A few things: We can be *sure* that the Watcher is an
: Ancient Evil, because he was imprisoned by Connacht in
: the Wind Age.
: The same pre-release info which listed the Fallen Lords
: also listed (according to Forrest's article, at least)
: which ones are ancient evils and which are turned from
: the light. Soulblighter, The Voiceless One and Bahl'al
: are all listed as ancient, while The Deceiver,
: Bonesplitter and The Faceless Man are listed as
: recent.
: Now "ancient" might mean pre-Connacht, as
: Bahl'al is known to be--which, interestingly, implies
: that Damas was covertly evil even before Connacht
: arose. Or "ancient" might mean Wind Age or
: earlier, in which case Connacht's mysterious hooded
: lieutenant can't be the Faceless Man, who as a recent
: convert must have arisen during the Wolf Age. I prefer
: the first definition of "ancient evil," for
: no other reason than that Damas' predating Connacht
: and the hood guy being the Faceless Man are both pet
: theories of mine. :)
: I have no conclusive evidence that Shiver is Bonesplitter
: and not the Voiceless One, but here are all the little
: circumstantial bits. Evidence that Shiver is
: Bonesplitter: she looked like a Myrmidon before
: Rabican toasted her; her vanity; her blitzkrieg,
: Myrm-like "kill'em all and let Wyrd sort 'em
: out" attitude; and her apparent proficiency with
: Myrkridia, the Myth II Dark unit closest to Myrmidons
: in behavior, speed and combat style (and race name,
: for that matter). Evidence that Shiver is not the
: Voiceless One: she had a voice both before and after
: the battle with Rabican; we haven't heard anything
: about Connacht fighting her in the Wind Age, as we
: have with the similarly ancient Watcher; and her
: naivete (I hesitate to call anyone who can explode me
: with a thought "stupid") points to relative
: youth. Any Fallen Lord as thoughtless as the modern
: Shiver would never have survived Connacht's reign.
: Any evidence *for* Shiver being the Voiceless One, other
: than the mention of Moagim? (C'mon, surely you can
: think up some evidence as flimsy as mine.)
She does have almost no voice in Myth 2: it's all a telepathic type of speech.
: Do you think the two absent Fallen Lords were killed
: during the battle with the Cath Bruig empire? They
: don't seem to have died during the war in the West, so
: either they were killed beforehand or they survived
: the war in secret--which seems a little unlikely,
: since if *three* Fallen Lords of the original six were
: unaccounted for, Alric would be scouring the country
: every day.
There was a paragraph in the Myth II manual that was telling the story of Myth, and right after Balor's defeat was a sentence that read something like: "Their power broken, the remaining fallen lords were soon hunted down and destroyed by the armies of the light". So they were killed soon after Myth 1, Soulblighter couldn't be found, and the Deciever was frozen in the Dramus River.
: Have any 3rd-party scenarios featured these two Lords
: yet?
Neomorpheous was working on one for a short time at the same time I was developing my scenario, but it's dead now.
-Joyeuse
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