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Re: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants...

Posted By: SiliconDream (169.2.242.36)
Date: 12/10/1999 at 3:15 p.m.

In Response To: Fallen Lords, Avatara, Lieutenants... (Pimpyō)

A few things:

We can be *sure* that the Watcher is an Ancient Evil, because he was imprisoned by Connacht in the Wind Age.

The same pre-release info which listed the Fallen Lords also listed (according to Forrest's article, at least) which ones are ancient evils and which are turned from the light. Soulblighter, The Voiceless One and Bahl'al are all listed as ancient, while The Deceiver, Bonesplitter and The Faceless Man are listed as recent.

Now "ancient" might mean pre-Connacht, as Bahl'al is known to be--which, interestingly, implies that Damas was covertly evil even before Connacht arose. Or "ancient" might mean Wind Age or earlier, in which case Connacht's mysterious hooded lieutenant can't be the Faceless Man, who as a recent convert must have arisen during the Wolf Age. I prefer the first definition of "ancient evil," for no other reason than that Damas' predating Connacht and the hood guy being the Faceless Man are both pet theories of mine. :)

I have no conclusive evidence that Shiver is Bonesplitter and not the Voiceless One, but here are all the little circumstantial bits. Evidence that Shiver is Bonesplitter: she looked like a Myrmidon before Rabican toasted her; her vanity; her blitzkrieg, Myrm-like "kill'em all and let Wyrd sort 'em out" attitude; and her apparent proficiency with Myrkridia, the Myth II Dark unit closest to Myrmidons in behavior, speed and combat style (and race name, for that matter). Evidence that Shiver is not the Voiceless One: she had a voice both before and after the battle with Rabican; we haven't heard anything about Connacht fighting her in the Wind Age, as we have with the similarly ancient Watcher; and her naivete (I hesitate to call anyone who can explode me with a thought "stupid") points to relative youth. Any Fallen Lord as thoughtless as the modern Shiver would never have survived Connacht's reign.

Any evidence *for* Shiver being the Voiceless One, other than the mention of Moagim? (C'mon, surely you can think up some evidence as flimsy as mine.)

Do you think the two absent Fallen Lords were killed during the battle with the Cath Bruig empire? They don't seem to have died during the war in the West, so either they were killed beforehand or they survived the war in secret--which seems a little unlikely, since if *three* Fallen Lords of the original six were unaccounted for, Alric would be scouring the country every day.

Have any 3rd-party scenarios featured these two Lords yet?

--SiliconDream

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