: *Smacks his forehead and shakes his head.* No, no... You
: just...don't get it, do you? I explained all of the
: points you brought up that second time, wherein I
: became so frustrated that I simply did not bother
: responding. I already had disproved them, and yet you
: brought them back up again. That's essentially all I
: did the entire thread, refute the same tired,
: illogical arguments.
Alright, shoot me for making a mistake.
*hears a gun being loaded and runs for cover*
: And I'm only 17, and know a girl a year younger than I
: who is easily the most intelligent, most mature person
: I've ever met. Age is hardly an excuse, sir.
*hates being addressed as sir for reasons beyond the scope of this response*
I just want to say that -most- 16 year olds aren't mature.
: To everyone who disagrees with me, please tell me what
: the truth is when I say something that isn't the
: truth, because it's very hard to look at it reasonably
: when a statement is like the one Archer just made.
: Now that is infuriating and offensive, that one
: especially, as well as the other half-dozen times you
: chose to use rhetoric and erism to make me look the
: enemy. I cannot believe you feel victimized by my
: saying in frustration that I would not reitterate what
: I already had said due to the circumstances.
If I say something stupid, I'd like to be told that in a tactful way, and in my opinion, justified or unjustified, the way you responded wasn't. I didn't mean to say "Archer=evil" but if I did, I probably was angry, which isn't much of a justification, but it is my excuse.
: However, I would be delighted to begin our discussion
: on this again, though my time is limited, which is the
: other reason I felt I didn't need to respond (in
: addition to the said implication of the fear that my
: arguments would fall to silence). I won't be able to
: respond to every post I wish to (as with the last
: thead) by the misfortune of that alone.
: If we do this, we should keep it reasonably organized. We
: can do a debate between just the two of us, Seraph,
: though I don't see how that would easily bring many
: others into the argument (unless we had team debate,
: which is hard on a forum).
Well, if there is anything you really want to debate, I'll debate you. I'll try and stop reacting with anger.
: I propose then that we have a group dicussion not unlike
: what normally occurs here at the Asylum. However,
: rather than attempting our usual erism, let us
: endeavor to use heuristic anaylsis, and pose our
: arguments logically and reasonably. As well, we might
: be better served by focussing on one topic at a time,
: which I know is difficult because of the
: interrelatedness of this vastly broad subject, but it
: will allow individual problems and disagreements to be
: resolved, rather than just arguing for the sake of
: arguing, in an endless cycle of the same fallacious
: diatribes.
Say that in common english please?
I think what you meant was basically that we should use logic and reason, and not just shout of what's on our mind and barely deserves protection as an opinion as fact.
I'll do my best to avoid falling to that.
: Seraph, or perhaps someone else, you might just respond
: to your original post of this thread with your
: argument. It could be any specific topic, but here is
: an example: Resolve: The use of nuclear weapons on
: Japan during World War II was immoral.
: So, you can use that, or any of the many individual
: topics constituting this vast subject; whatever you
: desire (such as the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, the
: destruction of "tyrranical" regimes,
: etcetera). As long as it's just one topic, we all
: should be able to come to a resolution. *Shrugs, then
: welcomingly indicates for him to begin.* Tocca a te,
: signore.
Well, I cann't think of anything off the top of my head I can safely* argue, so I'll let you start.
*In other words, stuff that I'm not strongly opininated on.
Seraph
P.S. Thank you for responding reasonably,and I hope in this I do the same. Now we can move on with our lives and our debates without thinking the other one is an inmature dolt.
