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Re: TBC thread (Spoilers)

Posted By: Stinger (nrwl-sh5-port76.snet.net)
Date: 8/31/2002 at 9:45 a.m.

In Response To: Re: TBC thread (Spoilers) (Welly)

: Spoilers for the first novel be here!

: Remember when the Lady was talking to Croaker inside the
: Tower at Charm? She said that her ancient husband, the
: Dominator (the same guy she and the 10 Taken were
: buried alive with) was influencing the Circle (via
: telepathy or some similar magic power). Therefore,
: certain members of the Circle were acting for the
: Dominator, and the rest of the circle was unwittingly
: following him too. Which means that the Lady is quite
: literally a lesser evil, and the Circle is working for
: a much greater evil.

The Taken under The Dominator's influence were all women. That is how the Dominator is able to influence them. Lady, on the other hand, is far more powerful than they (remember the eye?), and was successful in getting out of the ground first (she controlled Bomanz long before the Dominator got ahold on the Taken). I wouldn't consider her a "lesser" evil at all. She's less violent, but certainly no less dark and nasty.

: So, the Nine of Myth are not really similar to the
: Circle, since the former works for good and the latter
: (either unwittingly or intentionally) works for evil.

Actually, I think the Nine are based on the Circle. Remember how the Circle keep getting knocked off ("Two of The Nine were killed, which makes them something like The Three now, if you also subtract Murgen and Cu Roi, who did not escape the destruction of the Tain, and the others who have died this year."). The same thing happens to the Circle... one by one they disappear.

: But as for the White Rose and how she might fit into
: Myth, I cannot really think of a way. Imo, a character
: like her was simply left out of Myth.

Agreed. There's just too much material in TBC (6 books published by the time TFL was in production) to expect Bungie to borrow that extravagantly.

: Yep it comes into play much later. They belong to the
: last Free Company of Khatovar, but for the first few
: novels, the name has no real importance. At the end of
: The White Rose, it is finally given mention as an
: intro into later events.

: The character on the cover is Soulcatcher, the one who
: rode in on that huge ship into Beryl. Very small
: person, with a black morion and leather outfit, dagger
: with a red gem held by sculpted claw in the pommel of
: the dagger. The cover is an excellent one.. I think it
: was painted first and then Cook based the appearance
: of SC on that picture, but I could be wrong. Either
: way it fits the description in the book.

: The pentagram also is important. The first White Rose
: buried the Dominator, the Lady, and the 10 Taken
: inside a huge subterranean complex. The Ten were on
: the 5 points of the shape and on the 5 inside
: criss-cross thingies. The two others were buried
: together in the center. Soulcatcher mentions at the
: end of the first chapter that a fool named Bomanz
: released them from their prison, the 10 and the Lady,
: a long time ago (but the Lady kept the Dominator
: trapped inside).

: In that way, the Lady must struggle against the Circle
: and their Rebel, and also try to keep the Dominator
: from finding a way to get himself out. A very cool
: plot if you ask me :D

Which is why, if there's a Myth 4, TBC should be referenced again. As it should have been for Myth 3, since MJ didn't have Bungie's notes. :)

--Stinger

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