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Re: Mazzarin and Sinis

Posted By: The Butcher (cache1.uwn.unsw.EDU.AU)
Date: 8/16/2002 at 3:24 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Mazzarin and Sinis (Welly)

: People have found ways to connect ideas in Myth with
: other ideas in Gurps that seem to actually be
: contradictory. I have thought of a way to make the TFL
: definition of a Shade conform with the M2 definition.

: It's really simple actually: there are 2 ways one can
: create a shade. One way is to reanimate a dead
: sorcerors corpse. The other, hinted at in the M2
: flavor text, allows a shade to be made by a
: still-living volunteer or even possibly an unwilling
: captive.

No bending of the definition is necessary in this case. Remember, it's not certain that Turquine actually survived the tortures of the Fallen. In fact, it makes more sense that he wouldn't have survived them. The probable sequence of events behind the Turquine flavor text is this: Turquine was an unpopular Cath Bruig sorcerer and governor, a man who mistreated his subjects but still opposed the Fallen. He knew that the Fallen would torture him to death for opposing them, but wanted revenge on his subjects for abandoning him. So he went to the nearest Fallen Lord's camp, where he was tortured to death and brought back as a shade.

: Considering that, these are the ways I understand the
: event you asked about. Mazzarin, the still-living
: great hero, kills a still-living great villian by the
: name of Sinis. Presumably when the massive steel of
: the Nyx shrine crushed him to death. Mazzarin leaves.
: The Watcher comes along and makes a Shade from the
: remains of Sinis (using the first example of
: shadifying).

First of all, The Deciever is Sinis's master, not the Watcher. Second of all, Alric would definitely not recognize Sinis if he had died over a thousand years ago (remember, Mazzarin died in the Wind Age) and not been seen since. I stand by my theory.

: Or, the collapse didn't actually finish Sinis. The
: Watcher got to him and made him a shade while he was
: still clinging to life (using the second example).

Again, I stand by my theory for the reasons I listed above.

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