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Re: More proof the Watcher is Calliach

Posted By: Seraph (adsl-66-120-163-37.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net)
Date: 7/21/2002 at 8:37 p.m.

In Response To: Re: More proof the Watcher is Calliach (Martel)

: For whatever reason, Alric is freakily resistant to all
: forms of lightning. However, dreams don't have to be
: good at killing individual people: a blast from a
: dispersal dream will do remarkably little damage to a
: Shade or Trow. The fact that the ability is capable of
: massacering rank-and-file makes it a dream in my book.

That makes sense. I don't agree...but it makes sense.

: The fact that we don't see Ghol shamans in TFL and
: Soulblighter doesn't mean Ghol shamans don't exist. We
: don't see any warriors armed with polearms in TFL and
: Soulblighter, for instance. By your reasoning, this
: would mean that no humans in all of Mythworld know how
: to make polearms, or at the very least that there are
: no regiments which use them, which is plainly
: ridiculous. We don't see any cavalry in TFL and
: Soulblighter. Does this mean that humans haven't
: figured out how to ride? We don't see any human
: sorcerers other than Avatara and Warlocks in TFL and
: Soulblighter. Does this mean that there are no other
: orders of magery?

: What I'm getting at is that TFL and Soulblighter are not
: the be all and end all of the Myth world. While ingame
: evidence may take precedence over GURPS, it would be
: ridiculous to claim that this means that GURPS is a
: tome of purest falsehood. In situations, such as this
: one, where the word of GURPS is not directly
: contradicted by ingame evidence, I feel that we should
: take its word as truth, and that the same should apply
: to any material supplied by Myth3.

: Bear in mind that the vast majority of the time, these
: Ghols are doing speculative shooting (that is,
: shooting at a target that they can't actually see yet
: and taking an educated guess as to where they are).
: It's hardly suprising that their accuracy is poor.
: Furhermore, there's a vast number of delicate tasks
: necessary in the loading and firing of a
: medieval-style cannon, so much so that for a long
: period of time, artillerists were actually academics
: brought in specially, and not in fact members of the
: army they were attached to in the strictest sense. The
: fact that they are able to accomplish these tasks
: speaks volumes for their potential intelligence, which
: we see little of mainly due to the fact that they have
: formed a nomadic society in which individuals have
: little time for academic study in the human sense,
: since a higher priority is scavenging for their next
: meal.

Key word: POTENTIAL.
And in response to your earlier comments.

I don't have GURPS, and until I do I am not going to try and judge it.

Polearms: Unless you are planning to face cavalry, spears and pikes are not really all that good as weapons. A regiment of swordsmen like the Warriors would be a much better all around group.

Cavalry: Besides being faster and potentially more heavily armored, Cavalry units hold no real advantage over infantry. (I'm sure that the advantage of height comes in, but that's not really that impressive, after all you can kill the horse)
So I don't think the Myth people would use them in war unless there was some really good reason for it.

I don't think that GURPS is pure falsehood, but I'm not going to take anything it says as the truth unless it is backed up by something in game, or it is a reasonable conclusion. (Something that we could believe based on in game stuff, or something that makes sense based on our knowledge of similar fantasy worlds)

I know that early cannons were a pain in the butt to use, and that they were opperated by professional mercenaries.
However they also blew up a lot. Something that these cannons do not do.

Lastly, Myth III is not good information unless it is used as part of a theory (I don't think it's pure BS, but don't say that it is what happened during this time frame pure and simple). If you want a real reason for that (no I'm not antiMJ) I'll post it.

Seraph

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