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Re: The old big one.

Posted By: Seraph (adsl-66-120-161-175.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net)
Date: 7/16/2002 at 2:50 p.m.

In Response To: Re: The old big one. (Welly)

: Well there's a few things missing here. The game only
: mentions "his unwholesome trade in human
: remains" which can mean he simply hired thugs to
: dig up bodies and transport them to Soulblighter.

: This would be fine if not for the manual which says
: "Having learned Balor's greatest secret, the
: reanimation of the dead, Soulblighter passed on this
: knowledge to his evil human associates so they could
: build him an army".

: Since the time I read that quote, I understood it to
: mean: Soulblighter passed on the fact that he knew
: Balor's greatest secret to his human pals, so they
: could gather corpses for his army. I think you
: interpret it to mean Soulblighter actually taught that
: secret itself to the human pals and not just the fact
: that he had it.

: Although the following question isn't integral to my
: first theory: why would Soulblighter give his
: greatest , most puissant secret away to people like
: the Baron, who could stab him in the back, etc.? There
: is almost never any love between agents of the dark.

: You mention your belief that lesser necromantic spells
: animate the undead armies. Why would something so
: small be considered Balor's greatest of secrets?
: It's not even a dream, and it's being called his
: greatest secret? Surely the ability to summon
: thousands of priestess from a completely different
: plane or the power to call lightning from the sky is
: far greater than some simple necromatic spells that
: Jack and Jill could learn.

: Balor, who razed the greatest human empire of the world.
: Balor who wears the mantle of a full-fledged diety.
: And his greatest secret is "lesser"
: necromantic magics? Imho, his greatest secret is the
: dream of unlife. Soulblighter learned this secret, and
: told his little buddies that he knew about it, who
: then scattered around looking for corpses to give to
: Soulblighter.

: There is a second theory. For this one, I'm going to
: interpret the manual quote in my second paragraph
: similar to the way you do: Soulblighter learned the
: secret and actually taught how to execute it to the
: human counterparts. You mentioned your belief that
: lesser necromantic magics could be taught to these
: kind of people, but I explained my belief that it
: couldn't be lesser magics that would be called Balor's
: greatest secret. Which means for this second theory,
: I am stating that the Baron could actually execute the
: dream of unlife.

: Now. What do we know of the Baron's ability? training?
: history? Next to nothing, if not anything at all. For
: all we know, Soulblighter could have taught him how to
: work a single dream. There is nothing that states that
: the Baron could not have learned this. If he's got the
: money to maintain a keep and library like that, and
: such a significant personal army, he's got the time to
: do anything he wants, espcecially at the 'prodding'
: and with the 'encouragement' of someone like
: Soulblighter. And besides, he has a teacher, and not
: just some low-grade wizard. He's got Soulblighter to
: teach him. The same Soulblighter who outlived Balor.

He doesn't have the power even to (personally) defend himself how strong a mage can he be?

: In my two theories, whether the Baron could wield the
: magics or not, there isn't a place for "lesser
: necromantic magics" which AFAIK is interestingly
: a phrase that never actually appears anywhere at all
: in the game itself.

: Yes, I needed this back again, like the old days.

: -Welly

what's AFAIK?
it's possible that it was his BEST KEPT secert...but that brings out a whole new line of though.

Seraph

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