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Re: More proof the Watcher is Calliach

Posted By: Martel (inktomi2-ltn.server.ntl.com)
Date: 7/16/2002 at 7:29 a.m.

In Response To: Re: More proof the Watcher is Calliach (Seraph)

: I know that in Myth all Necromancers serve the Dark
: (either directly or indirectly*)
: But I meant in ALL fantasy
: Necromancer=evil (to this angel)

Actually, there are a number of examples from fantasy of necromancers aiding good. Examples:

Hexen2: the Necromancer is one of the four "hero" characters, going up against the Darkness because he wants their power for himself.

Moonrunner (a fighting fantasy book): Mawn Pretoragus, a necromancer, creates a hand of glory for your character. His motives are unclear, but he probably realises that the Darkness are well on their way to finishing the creation of their Ethereal Projector (think a magical version of a nuke), and, were they to use it, a) he might well die b) loads of other people would die.

One story from "Inferno" that I've forgotten the name of: a necromancer summons his best friend's murdered lover as a ghost (with independent will, not under his control).

More generally, there's a decent number of evil sorcerers who end up aiding good, like Medea, who used her sorcery to keep Jason alive through his various trials to get the golden fleece, and, when he was trying to escape from Colchis, chopped up her little brother and threw him into the sea, knowing that the persuing ships would stop to collect the pieces of the young prince for burial (well, I said she was evil...)

: The idea of placing (which Dungeons and Dragons does)
: healing spells and such as "necromancy" is
: pretty darn close to blasphemy in my opinion.

: Now I suppose that one could argue that life and death
: are two sides of the same coin (I hate arguements
: about balance ruling the universe because the
: asumption seems to be it is SO delicate that if mess
: with it at all you screw it up)

One could also argue that summoning someone as an undead creature is a less perfect alternative to actually bringing them back to life, as suggested in the "Inferno" story I mentioned. And resurrection by a human rather than divine agency isn't blasphemous?

: Good=Good
: Evil=Evil
: What falls into those catagories is a bit more comlicated
: though.

Assuming that there is only Black and White in this world, never any shade of Grey.

: *directly, as a Fallen Lord or a Shade or a pawn
: *indirectly, as a greedy selfish little *******.

: Seraph

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