: I was reading through the Legends and Lore stuff about
: who the head is, and I happened to notice that the
: Head being a former Leveller, Moagim, which is what my
: theory has been for a while. Think about it, a they
: say the leveller never dies, they always remove his
: head and dispose of the body in various ways. Balor
: was trying to talk his way out of getting tossed away
: AFTER it had gotten removed, so he wasn't dead. Also,
: he probably wouldn't die after getting thrown in the
: Great Devoid, it's just there's no way for him to come
: back because no one is going to jump in after him to
: try and rescue him.
If that's true, then what's the deal with that moderately large bang that took place after dorfy deposits Balor's head down ze hole? (I just had to do that. sorry. it gets away from me every now and then)
So the head is Moagim, formerly
: Tirecies(sp?).
I don't think it's ever been proven exactly who Bungie wanted the head to be. That is, of course, unless Bungie decided to release the Head's identity sometime in the last three or four weeks that I've been away. Although this is a speculation that prbly verges on heresy here in the Asylum, it's entirely possible that the folks at Bungie didn't even have some sort of history or identity attached to the head and that it was just there in furtherance of the story, and we're all wasting out time discussing it. Me, I like wasting my time, cuz I'm nutso. mb that's why I fit in here(it is an Asylum after all). Now, I'm not going to bore everybody by pointing out the extremely obvious point that if it didn't come from the creators' own lips, it isn't part of the ultimate factual (sort of) canon of the Myth world... oops. I guess I did anyway. My bad.
If Balor, a leveller, can survive a
: while with his head cut off, you would assume that any
: leveller can for any length of time. So they buried
: Moagim's head and later on Alric realized that they
: could use the Head's hatred of his former enemy to get
: revenge because Alric knew it was Connacht who was
: Balor the whole time, or at least suspected. He is the
: head Avatara so they all listen to him in his idea to
: dig up the head to help them, maybe not knowing of
: Alric's theory of Balor being Connacht.
So you accept one of the myriad nonsensical head theories (I'll admit I've made a coupla' really off tangent ones of my own since I found out about this place), and yet you shrug off the theory of the leveller cycle with two spirits being reincarnated as heroes and levellers, basically alternately, that, although perhaps a little unsupportable, actually makes sense?
Did any of that make any sense to you? If it did, please try to explain it to me sometime.
Now, Connacht
: was the hero of the particular age in which Moagim was
: defeated. The Wolf Age, i believe was the dark age.
: Then the light age was Wind Age perhaps.
Other way around. Don't fret, it happens to the best of us - at least until such point that the assorted experienced people who inhabit the Asylum gently lead you down the path of knowledge by beating you over the head with it.
I've always had this way with words.
Anyway, don't
: you think that Moagim might have a little something
: against Connacht, even if he is Balor. Not only did he
: defeat him and bury his head in the sand, he took over
: as the leveller, stealing Moagim's thunder. So now
: Moagim has a thousand years to mull over his defeat
: and let his rage grow. Despite the fact that all of
: them are evil, Moagim might want to get a little
: revenge on the people that ended his reign. So he had
: both Shiver and the Watcher killed because they were
: part of the Light back then.
I still haven't gotten around to getting M3 yet, and it isn't even really canon, but wasn't the Watcher a bad guy while Connacht was beating up on all the myrks? Also, the Light (during the time of Alric vs. Balor, that is) had already found out that the head was betraying them, by the time that they defeated the Watcher (I won't say killed, because that, of course, is a topic of debate. Sometimes I'm surprised that the game's very existance isn't under debate here. 'Course, I could probably find SOMEBODY out there who would argue about it), and what more, Alric and the legion were severely out of touch with the rest of the good guys by that time as well, so even if the Light were still receiving instructions from the head, it couldn't have advised Alric how to kill the Watcher, and that's provided that the head DID want the Watcher dead, and THAT'S provided that the head WAS Moagim (or whoever, if you decide to accept M3's explanation of who the leveler was).
Aren't I just terribly long-winded? Well that's too bad.
He probably knew of
: Connacht's quest to find the armor and other
: artifacts, and its doubtful he knows exactly how much
: time passed while he was buried, so he doesn't know
: that Connacht/Balor has already obtained it, or is
: decieved by the Dark in order for them to capture
: alric, or even, due to him being evil, just decides to
: trick them. So the head is Moagim. He had the power to
: survive buried under Muirthemne, and also had the
: thirst for revenge to help the Light.
: -shadowfax
Pretty good theory overall, wot?
-Doom =)
