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Re: Well, that's not proof...

Posted By: SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-27.HIP.Berkeley.EDU)
Date: 11/14/2001 at 11:12 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Well, that's not proof... (Discordia)

: I personally think that Mauls and Oghers are related, but
: not the same race at all. They do look similar, but
: they also are obviously different. So perhaps the
: Mauls are sort of the 'poor cousins' of Oghres, not as
: smart, developed or anything. they were also probably
: even less developed 1000 years ago, since you sorta
: get the idea that the Mauls were equiped by
: Soulblighter. Tales, could also be seen through a
: different light. Perhaps the images therin are the
: imaginings of the Squire who is writing it down.
: Perhaps, also, MJ just took artistic liberties ;).

I'll take option number three. :-)

: Also the mauls were quite low-profile 'till SB called
: them to him with his promises. Hardly anybody had even
: heard of them…

It's hard to believe the Trow hadn't. The Mauls are their next-door neighbors, apparently. As for humans--the Mauls are also neighbors of Gower, so it (and by extension the whole Cath Bruig empire) should know of their existence, and of the Oghre. The empire is gone now, of course, and Gower is inaccessible--still, I'd expect that scholars like Antero and his colleagues would have heard of them.

: They did not overlook it, as you can see from Connacht
: and Damas' appearances in the game. Also the Spider
: dimension is shown, persumably where the Spider God in
: M3 was summoned from…

Actually, I was gonna bring this up as another conflict with Tales. It's pretty clear that in the Bungie backstory the Spider Cultists are the Smiths and their "followers." MJ gets around this through an...elaborate interpretation of the M2 spider flavor (though the in-game artistic evidence for Smith-Cultist identity isn't really addressed), but this is more difficult if you accept the Tales story, which shows that there were gates to the spider-world actually built into the Tain. It also shows a spider-world very different from the descriptions given in Myth III texts.

You're doubtless right that they used Tales as inspiration, though--just not canon.

: Santa also said that they did try to make the trow as
: they look in Tales, but that Trow bodies simply don't
: work well with swords. The same could be said about
: Oghres. They look pretty friggin' goofy in Tales.

What race doesn't look goofy in Tales? :-) I always thought those Oghres would make a fun unit--ungainly and assymetric as they are. They've got that Ghôl appeal.

But I'm not saying the change wasn't perhaps a good idea for gameplay reasons--or story reasons, for that matter.. I'm just saying they changed it from the Bungie version, for good or for bad.

--SiliconDream

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