Unliving

Posted By: griefmop (sdn-ar-004aztucsP239.dialsprint.net)
Date: 9/15/2001 at 1:54 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife (SiliconDream =PN=)

: They're unliving, too.

How many textual references are there to 'unliving'? Are we sure there's even a coherent pattern of use for this term? It may well be that people (both characters in the story and authors of the text) use the terms indiscriminantly.

If it's not a technical term, a term of art of what have you, it may well not be used systematically. We can play the definitions game with a lot of common words in any language.

Is there any real reason to think that 'unliving' has its own meaning? Is there any evidence that it means other than 'undead'? (Beyond the appearance within the two words of the strings of characters l-i-v-i-n-g and d-e-a-d which in other circumstances represent words that are commonly taken as antonyms, but yet do not mutually apply to everything, the one or the other.) I'm asking for something somebody says that makes this look like a viable course of enquiry.

I'm not even clear on what's at stake in this debate.

Messages In This Thread

• Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
  Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/11/2001 at 11:15 p.m.
  • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
    IronDuke (dingo.au.edgematrix.COM) -- 9/12/2001 at 12:28 a.m.
    • Hehe (NT) *PIC*
      Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/12/2001 at 12:38 a.m.
  • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
    griefmop (sdn-ar-002aztucsP267.dialsprint.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 2:06 a.m.
    • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
      SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-117.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/15/2001 at 3:09 a.m.
      • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
        Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 3:48 a.m.
        • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
          griefmop (sdn-ar-004aztucsP239.dialsprint.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 1:43 p.m.
          • Lol, YOU give up! :-D (NT) *PIC*
            Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 1:50 p.m.
            • If that's your response...
              griefmop (sdn-ar-004aztucsP239.dialsprint.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 1:57 p.m.
              • Re: If that's your response... *PIC*
                Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 2:28 p.m.
    • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
      Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 3:44 a.m.
  • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
    Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 4:10 a.m.
    • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
      Lord Raven (1Cust11.tnt1.glen-innes.au.da.uu.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 4:16 a.m.
      • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
        SiliconDream =PN= (as3-1-117.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/15/2001 at 5:17 a.m.
        • Lol, talk about brevity! :-D gj, Sili; agreed (NT) *PIC*
          Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 5:23 a.m.
        • I Like It
          Lord Raven (1Cust11.tnt1.glen-innes.au.da.uu.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 6:30 a.m.
          • Re: I Like It *PIC*
            Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 9:40 a.m.
            • Re: I Like It
              zeph (194.125.156.252) -- 9/15/2001 at 3:01 p.m.
              • Woo! (NT)
                Martel (dialup.62-172-22-230.tesco.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 5:25 p.m.
          • so true [nt] *NM*
            Welly (spider-mtc-tf031.proxy.aol.com) -- 9/15/2001 at 2:04 p.m.
        • Unliving
          griefmop (sdn-ar-004aztucsP239.dialsprint.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 1:54 p.m.
          • Re: Unliving
            SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-0.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/15/2001 at 4:51 p.m.
            • It's a synonym
              griefmop (63.225.37.30) -- 9/17/2001 at 1:15 p.m.
              • Has "Undeath" Ever Been Used? *PIC*
                Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/17/2001 at 2:21 p.m.
                • Re: Has "Undeath" Ever Been Used?
                  SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-118.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/17/2001 at 3:16 p.m.
                • I've figured it out! *PIC*
                  Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/17/2001 at 3:41 p.m.
                  • Heh, post was late *PIC*
                    Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/17/2001 at 3:44 p.m.
      • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
        Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 5:21 a.m.
        • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
          Lord Raven (1Cust11.tnt1.glen-innes.au.da.uu.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 6:34 a.m.
          • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
            Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 10:14 a.m.
            • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
              Lord Raven (1Cust52.tnt1.glen-innes.au.da.uu.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 10:53 a.m.
              • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife *PIC*
                Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 12:53 p.m.
                • Asylum Mapmaking Order?
                  Lord Raven (1Cust52.tnt1.glen-innes.au.da.uu.net) -- 9/15/2001 at 1:03 p.m.
                • Re: Life, Death, Undeath, and Unlife
                  zeph (194.125.156.252) -- 9/15/2001 at 3:06 p.m.
                  • There's already an Asylum order...
                    SiliconDream =PN= (as3-2-0.HIP.Berkeley.EDU) -- 9/15/2001 at 5:01 p.m.
                  • Asylumites order
                    zeph (194.125.156.192) -- 9/16/2001 at 6:53 a.m.

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