: And show a roasted patch of land with just smoke rising
: from it and a neat pile of ash...not dead...come on!
Yes, she died, but that doesn't mean she can't come back. I think Welly is confusing "death" with "ultimately and infinitely and forever gone".
: Unless they're using poetic license. Take another look at
: the text, it's very choppy and some doesn't seem to
: follow on like bits are left out or like a poem.
: struggled
: to
: thought
: Moagim
: vanity
: VANITY
: whisper
: weakness
: Peel the body...
: ...then pierce the soul.
: (question)
: Victory?
: (answer)
: Rabican stood to fight another day...
: (while on the other hand)
: ...Shiver lingered in defeat.
: i.e. Rabican survived but Shiver was defeated. Now if she
: was defeated, she would not survive or be able to
: escape before being killed. The reason they say
: "lingers" is as a foreboding message for the
: things to come, i.e. she is resurrected in Myth 2. I
: think it's categorical that she is killed by Rabican.
Very good point; agreed.
: Other quotes include this one from TFL Homecoming:
: "Shiver fell on the first night in a spectacular
: dream duel with Rabican, one of the Nine."
: This description of Rabican: "Rabican faced Shiver
: in the battle for Madrigal, casting her down in a
: terrifying dream duel using secrets revealed to him by
: The Head."
: Words like "fell" and "casting her
: down" indicate a hint of her actually dying.
People will, illogically, argue that this doesn't mean she died, or some crap like that which is reasonless.
: She definately dies as pointed out by this quote but it
: doesn't state when: "...her spirit disconnected
: from her body, set adrift on the ether..."
This is the most definitive point. We can agree a thing dies when its soul isn't in its body anymore.
: She dies and I'm pretty sure Rabican does the killing.
Agreed. Disagreeing with that is only to argue.
: I just wanted to clarify that fact.
Thanks, gj :-).
