: We're not defining "undeath" and
: "unlife" in Our English terms! People in
: Myth didn't have Latin as we know it... they're just
: names.
Oops! Gotta prove you way wrong there. Guess who dominated the world for countless aeons? :-) The Trow. Naturally, their Latin, which humans call "Trow", is the basis for many languages in the Mythworld.
Their terms, therefore, can be treated the same as ours.
: According to me, check the TFL Wight flavor text! Look,
: "unlife" is there... Unlife. It is an
: in-game term, similar to undeath in that memory can
: still be present. I never invented the term, Myth did.
Oh no, Welly, I know you didn't invent the actual word "Unlife", but the definition. You invented the definition for it based on
something very vague. I think this was a bad move.
And about the unlife term being used in the Wight flavor (btw, cool how the Tiber is an important river for the very Romanesque Covenant), it could simply mean death, if it must. In any case, it only supports my thought that unlife should be used for unthinking beings and that unlife is hardly a suited term for Shades and myrms.
: He was "born" again when his life was
: preserved, in my opinion.
If he needed to be born again, he wouldn't have had the previous life :-).
: There is no hard evidence
: saying he died... I say his natural life was altered,
: not stopped, because there is nothing concrete to the
: contrary.
No, there isn't hard evidence that he actually did the classical death thing: being stabbed, wounded, or mamed, and his organs stopped funtioning, especially the brain.
Ah, but I maintain he truly doens't live any more because his life is not natural. It is artificially animated by very complex and powerful magicks. The transition from natural to artificial is a death of natural life, and constitutes the reversal, his Soulblighter state, as undeath.
: The "dark magics" in the manual can feel pain,
: as in thrall.
The "dark magics" feel pain? Magic is just an institution, not a person
I guess that's just a typo.
: Their natural lives never ended, but were extended,
: altered.
Oh, there natural lives ended all right. If they were natural, they wouldn't need magic to suspend them.
: Some Shades were not avatars, just archmages, right.
I guess we agree. :-)
: It was Alric's head, but he's alive in Myth II. And he
: wasn't at the Devoid, so it was an easter egg, or a
: ditched plot arc
That's what I said, isn't it? I'm pretty sure I said it was a lost or ditched plot arc. Ok, agreed then :-).
: I'm not sure of anyone else who has a problem with
: "unlife" especially when it is mentioned in
: TFL.
When's that? Just the Thrall flavor?
: Not "our" term, Myth's term. It is used
: in-game.
No, yours is different. If it were as you defined it, it wouldn't apply to Wights, and The Watcher wouldn't need to find it (which he might not have). You therefore have a new term by the same name; a homonym.
: We know, this is what the Asylum is for :)
Hehe. :-)
