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Re: Archmage names for Dummies *PIC*

Posted By: Archer »–)› (cache0.iro.ptd.net)
Date: 9/6/2001 at 12:15 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Archmage names for Dummies (Discordia)

: My humble opinion on the touchy subject is that Ravanna
: and Shiver are seperate beings… sorta. Ravanna was the
: ravishing female warrior/mage (as we see from the mana
: bar) who fought alongside Connacht during the Wolf
: Age. Shiver is an ancient malign spirit who is perhaps
: able to either possess or corrupt willing beings. This
: Shiver spirit was either connected to Moagim (the
: first) in some way, or Ravanna was somehow involved
: with Moagim Reborn. Anyway Shiver gets ahold of
: Ravanna partway through probably using either her
: vanity or her hot temper as a door… thus we both get
: the ancient evil who created wights and the new,
: relatively unexperienced fallen lord. It would also
: explain why she was so pissed off at the Deciever for
: using her original name and calling attention to the
: fact that that shriveled hag was once the beauty that
: Ravanna is in MWA.

GURPS is the only thing that suggests that Culwyeh was an alias of Shiver. This is based on this m2 Wight flavor text:

    "...once known as the Messengers of Culwyeh, a name now forgotten by all but the most devout pupils of Necromancy, these miserable creatures seek only release from their hellish existence."

Ok, so GURPS is what says that Culwyeh is a name for Shiver. GURPS also says that Culwyeh invented Wights. That leads to the conclusion that Shiver invented Wights.
Notice how this stuff was totally invented in GURPS and isn't even alluded to anywhere else? It could be that Culwyeh is an alias for Moagim Reborn, or that, though the Messengers of Culwyeh, they were not invented by Culwyeh, just happened to be associated with him/her.

: Another possibility, however, could be that Ravanna was
: on the side of Connacht and then was seduced or
: somesuch thing by Moagim Reborn… this explains both
: the obscure "bedfellows" reference

Actually, that seems more likely to just be a reference to that Shiver takes a misretribution by joining Soulblighter.

: and the
: taunting with Moagim that was done by Rabican. It
: doesn't, however, explain the wights.

Well, your idea does…but it's not based on anything substantial.

Archer's Quiver »–)›

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