: Though I readily agree that something weird is going on,
: There are a couple of explanations for Twelve Motion's
: survival. First, decimation is not extermination.
: Strictly it means the death of 10 percent of the
: army...more loosely it just means severe casualties.
: Either way, though, the term implies that there are
: lots of survivors--I'd imagine they were just too
: wounded, exhausted and disorganized to try to get
: Alric back.
Thanks, Sili. I am perfectly aware of what the term decimation means, as akin to the Latin "decimare", blah blah blah… I was obviously using the term figuratively, since it carries a great weight in its general meaning, that of crushing or destruction.
: Second, remember that "Alric's eastern
: campaigns" also include the last third or so of
: the game. Twelve Motion could be a Legion survivor.
That's a technicality. Why would Twelve Motion, if only under Alric during the game eastern campaigns, have anything to do with The Deceiver or Alric? If so, being under Alric during the game eastern campaigns has no meaning.
: What surprises me more is that it didn't even matter if
: the words were said correctly. Yeah, I know it's an
: AoD reference, but even so. Seems to me like the
: Deceiver probably got up under his own power.
Not…really…or according to Alric, Twelve Motion, or seemingly The Deceiver. If he could get up under his own power, he'd do it when he was safe and protected by his 'locks.
However, we know that the septer was definitely necessary, among other factors. There are different permutations for the spell, but that's more in favor of humorous interest and the theatre aspect rather than any kind of proof that they didn't have to be correct.
: So that he could clone himself and send the clone off to
: die with Shiver, of course. :-)
Naturally…lol :-). That always seemed strange too…why he would just let himself die…hope m3 clears this up.
: The least fantastic explanation I can think of is that
: The Deceiver remained conscious while frozen, and able
: to mentally influence people at a distance. Initially
: he caused people to forget about him and just assume
: that he disappeared or died, since he didn't want
: anyone tracking him down and finishing him off. Once
: Soulblighter arose, Myrdred figured he was safer
: fighting on the Light side, so he telepathically
: jogged Alric's and Twelve Motion's memory and inserted
: info on how to come get him.
I like this theory too.
: As for how he could have done this long-distance mind
: control...well, The Head could still be around; it
: disappeared but it wasn't destroyed so far as we know.
: Alternatively, Myrdred could have established a mental
: link with Twelve Motion when he fought him just after
: TFL, the same way he bound Phelot during their fight
: before A Murder of Crows.
Yes, also feasible and a theory I like :-).
: You'll also notice that Cruniac and at least one other
: Warrior in the pre-game art have Brigand-ish facial
: hair...apparently Bungie liked the look too much to
: give it up completely.
No no; it's obvious that Bungie changed everything. Anime was an elisted company, not the Bungie artists themselves (the very intelligent ones you're so fond of). They can change those simple little bits of art very quickly, as they most likely did, or were smart enough not to do it until the last second. Since the cutscenes with the Brigs are minor, something only we would really notice or know about, they obviously kept them (those kinds of contracts don't last a long time…and reopening one! gah, no thanks! I'm sure they said). They're not going to go to Anime and ask to change it.
