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Re: ok, here is some theories about Al... *PIC*

Posted By: Archer »–)› (40-174.tnt-1.allentown.supernet.com)
Date: 8/16/2001 at 11:32 a.m.

In Response To: Re: ok, here is some theories about Al... *PIC* (Heron Guard King)

: I have some theories about Alric and Deceiver.

: 1st- Alric and deceiver became good friends in Barrier,
: when Deceiver caught him. Than he trapped him in *The
: five champions trap* and put some evil and
: slow(thralls, soulless and ghols) units for guard him.
: That's why our five champions rescued him very fast
: and easy.

Wth? What's your point for mentioning this about the slow units (weak units, you mean)? That, because they were good friends, as you put it, he let him go easily?

: AND

: 2nd- Balor was Connacht, Connacht was Emperor of The Cath
: Bruig Empire, Myrdred was Connacht's Avatara.

All right so far…

: So, I think that Avataras was very loyal to Emperors of
: The Cath Bruig Empire.

The Avatara were on the side of the Light, yes, but that doesn't mean they may not have ulterior motives. They're still human and want to accomplish their own goals; perhaps even Myrdred didn't like being taken over by Connacht, which is what I suggest.

: And they couldn't help them.

What?

: They must be always where their master was and they
: had to protect him.

No no, that's the Heron Guard. The Avatara were without an Emperor for a while until Connacht came along and was given the position by popular demand. The Avatara have basic loyalties to the Light, to the Empire, and to the Emperor, but nothing official that we know of. The Avatara never needed to actually go where Connacht did unless Connacht told them to come with him.

: Every avatara had to serve his
: Emperor well, even if he turns evil.

Never. The concept of this is proposterous. They were definitely going to let themselves be led by him in battle, but their loyalties don't go any further than a common Warrior, or other kind of simple soldier.

: But when Balor
: died, and there were no Emperor, every avatara had to
: server to The Cath Bruig Empire.

Do you mean Balor or Connacht? If you mean Balor and are talking about the Sword Age, no. There was only one Avatara left, Alric; there was also no Cath Bruig Empire, for it had been razed and destroyed since 100 years previous.

: And when Alric(his
: zerks) save Deceiver, *healing him*, he had to protect
: The Cath Bruig Empire,

No. The Cath Bruig Empire did not exist yet. The Empire was destroyed before the events of TFL (that's why the Herons were at this time Journeymen; no Empire or Emperor yet). The Empire wasn't reestablished by Alric until about three months after The Deceiver was revived. Before that, there was no sign at all that there would be a new Empire.

: that means that he had to
: defeat SB,

No. Avatara didn't necessarily hold true to anything but the Light. Soulblighter was only threatening the West, not the Empire because it didn't exist yet.

: and THAT means that he must help Alric to
: do this(Alric wanted defeat SB too, so Dec help him
: and than help to protect Emperor, Alric, and The Cath
: Bruig Empire).

No, no! You're basing this on the assumtion that The Deceiver was never evil, or something. He was a *Fallen Lord*, the most evil and powerful kind of archmage. He killed hundreds of thousands of people, all of which were living, on the Light side. This is a very evil dude at the time of TFL, no matter how good he may have been in a previous age, just the same as Balor or Soulblighter both were proven totally evil by their incomprehensible actions and attrocities to humanity and to the Light.

This is why it's so strange that, firstly, Alric even *thinks* to enlist the power of a Fallen Lord (keep in mind, Alric wanted him to help, a truly evil guy, defending against evil; not kill him and keep him from helping the Dark; Alric wanted and knew that Dec would help the Light…which makes no sense…unless he knew something). Secondly, Dec agrees with it! He just goes and forgets what he did for a few hundred years as an evil archmage and readily helps his former enemies! It's truly a crazy thing.

: Herons was very loyal to Emperors of The Cath Bruig
: Empire, BUT not so loyal like avataras.

Wrong; Herons would die for the Emperor or Empire if they thought they should or had to. Avatara never would have needed to do any such thing if it didn't suit their own motives (usually Light). You have not one iota of evidence, proof, or otherwise to support your opinion that Avatara were so devout.

: They didn't
: follow Balor, because he was evil. They will always
: protect and follow their emperor if he will do good
: not evil things.

Wrong; the Avatara are dedicated to the Light, and have no other official deligations to anything. Myrdred, for instance, did *not* follow Connacht when he disappeared. Myrdred was ensnared by Balor when he arrived in the late Wolf Age, and even then, it was against his will.
The only one who actually followed Connacht was his closest and most trusted Lieutenant (nothing like Myrdred): Damas. He and Connacht both came back in a similar way, both evil-made from the Black Arts that exist in the Untamed Lands which they studied in full. Balor and Soulblighter, fully evil now, were the only ones who went together.

: And avataras always had to follow
: him, if he is evil they must follow him.

No Avatara followed Connacht, nor would any willingly join the Dark without some alternative motive in mind.

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