: see, i needed to hear your side of the arguement
: explained in depth, like the above, instead of the
: simple 'refute my theory and provide some evidence'
: replies that were shoveled my way before. :P now
: things are beginning to make sense to me.
Please, please, don't encourage me to explain my arguments in *more* depth. The poor c.b.org server can't handle that much load...
: so are you saying that the Dream of Unlife might have
: been used to do that very thing, to make some Shades
: and the Myrms into their present state While They Were
: Still Living? so i guess I'd better stop referring to
: 'immortal' state but rather the ageless state of
: Unbeing. Right?
That's what I was suggesting, yeah. And count Soulblighter in there too, probably--he was Unliving back in TFL, as we can see from his being damaged by healing. He may have somehow made himself into a truly living immortal being by Myth II--since he's lost the heal vulnerability--but I think it's more likely that he simply gained the magical might to counter that particular weakness, as the Shades did. The unique όber-powerful guys like him tend to break outside all the categories.
: assuming it was found yes, which is what i still believe.
: it was then used to make the Myrms and some Shades
: like Mazzarin apparently.
: this one to me is interesting but I cannot really
: consider it to be true because the humans and the
: Dwarves are Always listed as Living or Light.
: therefore if they are living, they aren't... err, in a
: state of unlife. :)
Yeah, but whose point of view is Myth told from? :-) WE think we and the other races are alive. But maybe the Trow didn't agree, back in the day. For the first million years or so of their existence, the only life forms they'd encountered were the Elder Races, which I suspect to have been sexless, ageless, and largely inorganic, just like the Trow themselves. Humans and Dwarves would have represented a form of life so strange and different that it could hardly be considered life at all.
: interesting mb you're right that the summoner did't have
: the unlife dream. the time dream he has then would be
: his closely guarded secret, and when he died it
: undoubetly died with him.
Or else he wielded a suite of spells that were designed to exploit the properties of the Tain continuum, but were effectively useless elsewhere.
: makes sense to me now. impressive is right, actually,
: more impressive than the dream of unlife if you ask
: me. good thing that 'stid wasnt born in the TFL
: timeframe.
Chalk it up next to the other ten thousand life-saving chance events in TFL. :-)
--SiliconDream
