: hehe yup, these kind of debates are the most interesting
: because both sides know they have a valid arguement.
: but hey this is what makes Myth different, people care
: about the storyline and not just play it and then
: forget it. whether or not you and i agree on some
: aspect of the myth game, we still are comrades in a
: *slowly* dying race of TFL vets.
It is sad to think I am dying at the age of 17, but I suppose, life is a sexually transmitted terminal illness, you get it and you're already dying...
: hehe i think i know how you feel: why should all the
: other dreams be relatively unchangable but this one do
: so much? i think the dream itself is the same,
: depending on your skill and you personal abilities, it
: changes on how it affects the corpse it is casted
: upon. so the dream is as static as the others, but its
: users vary greatly. see what im trying to get at? i'm
: not good with words but i hope you can translate that
: mess :P
I choose to avoid Dream related debate until I get GURPS.
: shiver must have been older than we think then. soulless
: are in the screenshots so we'll have to accept
: whatever MJ comes up with :) finally some closure...
: coming Soon™
I always assumed that if Shiver was also Ravannah (her human form) and Culweyh (spelling?), then she could be infinitely old. For all we know, Culweyh may have been around since before the Wolf Age, a malevolent spirit.
: true, but i don't really think a super form of undead can
: exist. super corpses? i don't think there can be a
: Quality issue here because a corpse is a corpse (of
: course, of course! hehe remember that jingle)
: therefore the only changes can be quantitative.
: although the nature of that corpse can be altered
: (ghast for newer corpses, thrall for older etc.).
As Disc points out further down (or it may have been Fobo), a super corpse may not be possible, but complete resurrection would be the probable result. How powerful would someone with the Dream of Unlife be? If Joe-Bob the Poacher from Tallow got the Dream, he could resurrect Soulblighter, The Watcher and even Rabican. Assuming that the Dream also binds the reanimated, old Joe-Bob and his cousin would then be the most powerful man in the world.
: hmm yeah you got point there. perhaps the Baron
: specialized and focused all his abilities on that one
: ability with the dream, whereas the Warlocks do all
: kinds of lesser spells and also other things like
: trading their own souls. Lack of soul might mean lack
: of Aura, which is likely Vital in dream casting (like
: dispersals). the baron has a soul for all we know and
: therefore might be able to cast the dream of unlife.
I don't think that Baron Kildaer used a dream, but a minor spell using in the creation and binding of Ghasts.
: perhaps he kept those two for himself because those were
: his in the first place. He Had to have passed around
: the ability to make thrall because thrall are in every
: Fallen's army. i dont think he just let the Watcher
: make them then divide them up, that would take too
: long. he could at least quadruple the amount of thrall
: being made by sharing that secret with SB, SHiver, and
: Myrdred.
If the Fallen Lords were 'bound' to Balor, maybe he could access all of their knowledge at will, explaining the presence of Soulless, Thrall and Wights in almost every Fallen army. He may have passed the info on, or more likely, just produced Undead for his allies to use.
LR
: -Welly
