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Re: Fire one! (*Canon* :-D (and GURPS vs. Anti-GUR

Posted By: Archer »–)› (198.139.4.225)
Date: 6/4/2001 at 9:58 p.m.

In Response To: Re: Fire one! (*Canon* :-D (and GURPS vs. Anti-GUR (Archer »–)›)

Oo, it gets better! ;-)

: Those can be ignored where they happen; other info is
: still good.

Where do you draw the line? If some of it is tainted, there is surely more, which it proves it is; every day there are more oddities and things to be found that are not mentioned in the games anywhere. Like trying to get a lone from a bank, GURPS has lost its credit.

: But Bungie did approve it, and that's good enough.

Not really. The people didn't know what they were doing, and as far as they knew, the story was good. Unforunately, they didn't have the intimate knowledge that the writers or the documents themselves had, so they fall far short. They were just artists and bureaucrats who didn’t have a clue, were in a drunken stuper, didn’t actually read it, ectera. This is where we take the stance of ignoring the endorsement for how many contradictions there are.

: It's the story none-the-less. The RPG only affects it in
: a few, obvious places.

LOL! The entire thing absolutely reaks of the GURPS RPG, in every single paragraph, practically. The whole thing is obviously no more than just GURPS with Myth's basic story, if that. It is no encyclopedia.

: You mean the thing about Dec not being alive? Yeah, but
: that's a contradiction that can be overlooked.

Again, where do you draw the line? There is just simply too much falsity, too much crap in its boat too keep it afloat when forced to stand against the storm of canon.

: The information given equals it out.

Nope because we don't know how much of it is from the original story or just made up by the dumb Bungie guys or thought up by Seabolt. The information may or may not be true; only Myth III will tell.
•••
: Not the writers, and they obviously did it without
: thinking about the story very heavily; and I suspect
: that Bungie just approved it because it knew it was
: dying, promote the game, and only approved it at first
: in that "it's ok that you use the story to make
: your RPG" which turned into, people handing down
: third and fourth hand information, confusions,
: "it's the story exactly," which it obviously
: is not.

I'd still have to lean towards the concept that the company owns all things, all knowledge, all truth, and that they can say what is truth or not. Legally, it's truth.

: Yeah, but too much of it has this terrible, impure,
: putridness about it. It's only for an RPG, and Bungie
: screwed up in saying it was a full story, which it is
: not. Scott Campbell himself said that the story is
: such. He has the original design documents!!! He knows
: the exact truth, and GURPS is not like Myth III is
: appearing to be. This means IMMEDIATELY that GURPS is
: at least slightly flawed in story, far beyond the
: "minor" inconsistancies. How can you say
: anything against a sequel? (BTW, the following stories
: ingame are always more accurate, though GURPS is not a
: sequel, nor ingame, so it is irrelevant, whereas Myth
: II is clarification and elaboration. Therefore, Myh
: III will be even more accurate.)

Going by the following-stories making the proof, how can you not include GURPS? It's made after Myth II, gives more information, etcetera. Can't it just be that this is just a sequel (albeit a bad one) that will remain constant and truthful until Myth III?

: Hardly. MS buyout is proof.

Bah! This point is…pointless to discuss. Let's just drop it.

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