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Re: Mazzarin, Alric and Sinis

Posted By: Forrest of B.org (term1-9.vta.west.net)
Date: 4/26/2001 at 5:56 p.m.

In Response To: Mazzarin, Alric and Sinis (Caradhras)

: May I present more fodder for the Mazzarin/Alric theory?

Feel free.

: I don't know if anyone's pointed this out before, but
: look at the dialogue in "Out of the Barrier"

I think someone has, but nevertheless...

: Alric: Ah, Sinis. I thought you died when Mazzarin
: collapsed the Shrine of Nyx upon you.

: Sinis: Indeed Alric. Then I'll wager that you thought
: you'd seen the last of me.

: Alric: I HAVE seen the last of you...

: *boom* *bang* *pow* etc.

: Look at what Sinis says. "YOU thought YOU'd seen the
: last of me." Mazzarin died in the Wind Age, so
: Sinis must have been buried under the Shrine sometime
: in that age or before it. Then why does Sinis say
: "you" to Alric, who was born over a thousand
: years later? Sinis says "seen the last of
: me," not "heard the last of me,"
: implying that Alric was somehow there. Could it be
: that he knows they're the same spirit?

Perhaps.

: Of course, another explanation could just be that
: "you" just means 'the Light' in this case.
: This seems pretty flimsy though, especially since
: (unless I'm misremembering), he calls Alric by name.

Agreed.

: Another possible way to explain all this is to argue that
: Sinis was a good guy when he was buried... by
: Mazzarin, who was at this point a Shade. Sinis is then
: resurrected by the Dark as a Shade. If Mazzarin was a
: shade when he buried Sinis, the time limit disappears
: and this could have been a recent occurence. On the
: other hand, though, Alric's speech "Ah, Sinis! I
: thought you died..." seems full of swagger, not
: sorrow. You'd think that if Sinis being undead were a
: new thing, Alric would be expressing shock or sadness,
: not boastful self-confidence.

Aye, I think this was the original intent. Remember the change in the way Shades are made. I think originally, Watcher killed Avatara Mazz, then Shade Mazz killed Avatara Sinis, and finally Alric killed Shade Sinis. But they changed it, and now Mazz never became a Shade. But there IS another Shade named Mazzarin, so maybe he killed Sinis...

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