The thing about the level "Shiver", me and my friend have beat the level without having The Deceiver die! We killed Ravanna in the beginning, :) It is kind a weird that is possible since The Deceiver was suppose to die in that level.
Also after that level, the journal never talks abut The Deceiver again. He never says he died, and never said he is still around...
I dunno what else to say, I personally believe that when he did die (if he did!), he transferred his soul into Phelot, and I got some evidence about that. Maybe for another time...
: First, an important statement: The only primary source
: for Myth's storyline is the game itself. Anything
: else, like GURPS, is, at best, a secondary source.
: GURPS, seeing as how it's not meant to be much more
: than a Role Playing Game book, is really no more than
: a third source, yet it has had a lot of very
: interesting and valuable information. This can make it
: to a secondary source SOMETIMES. Unfortunetly, too
: many people have used GURPS as a primary source, even
: saying it is more truthful than the game itself! A
: prime example of this is believing that The Deceiver
: is living directly after m2, when in fact we saw him
: die. The guy who wrote that part had not finished the
: m2 level "Shiver." Had he, he would not have
: said that Dec was doing fine and well. Then the
: argument comes, "Well, if Bungie let that slip,
: then there must be a reason! Maybe he's actually still
: alive. THEY NEVER SAID!" We saw it ourselves.
: Maybe he would have found a way to cheat death in some
: way or another, but The Deceiver, for all intensive
: purposes, is dead! So why did Bungie let it slip?
: BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MATTER! GURPS is no more than a
: simple role playing game, *based* off of the original:
: no matter how close or how accurate or how interesting
: its information may be to what is true, IT IS NOT
: TRUTH! Truth is the game and the actual intent of the
: creators and writers. GURPS is no more than a thing
: used to inspire ideas for ROLE PLAYING GAMES BASED
: off of the original, though it has been instrumental
: in bringing a lot of basic Myth history info to the
: masses, and has equally inspired them to interesting
: theories (hence our lovely forum here:-)
: Ares, amen, brother!
