: Don't blame GURPS. It says repeatedly that there's six
: Fallen Lords not counting Balor, or seven counting
: Balor. If Shiver and Ravanna are a single being, then
: according to GURPS there's one more Fallen Lord, so
: there'd still be six Lords after Balor.
: This makes it clear that there being 6 Lords under Balor
: is a fact in itself, independently learned by the
: people of Myth; it's not just that they added up all
: the ones they knew about and arrived at 6.
: --SiliconDream
Nope Sili. GURPS says there are 7 Fallen Lords, 1 returned his service to the light, 4 died after Balor's defeat, and 2 disappeared.
So by saying "after Balor's defeat", this does not include Balor as a Fallen Lord.
I am not arguing about 6 Fallen Lords under Balor, I believe there were only 6 at a time under him. In total though, there were 7.
If you believe Shiver and The Voiceless One are the same (like the pre-release info), then to you there are 6 Fallen Lords. With them being different, there should be 7 (or 6.5 like Forrest suggested a while ago, :)