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Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocritical
Posted By: Yujenisis <Yujenisis@mac.com>Date: 11/14/00 10:34 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Violence in video games, and shallow-mindednes (Dan Rudolph)

> Unrealistic yet extreme violence such as Quake 3 or Mortal Kombat is a
> form of ironic humor in a similar vein to Bungie's no-blood mode in Myth
> II.

I agree, there is a threshold for violence, their needs to be a certain amount (I believe, but not a lot). I also hate to say it but I am in agreement that the lack of blood really does kill Oni. This was a ground-braking new game, that was to create a whole new genre-3d combat shooter etc etc. The game is based on anime? Have people seen anime, it is quite possibly the most violent thing I have ever seen. Now I will say only some are very bloody and violent, but the ones that are, VERY MUCH ARE! Taking out the blood-and not allowing an option for it, that really makes the game much less appealing. I love anime, but blood allows realism-im not saying absurd amounts of violence, but when you shoot someone there should be blood not just a body falling limply to the ground! People who find violence in games so offensive are the same people, commanding troops into countries to slaughter people, they are the same people who feel they have the right to choose whether people live or die. I am sorry, all those people on our government are nothing more then hypocrits. They talk about how violence is 'destroying our society' meanwhile proceed to kill people who make them feel 'unsafe' or that 'work against freedom' Freedom? What about freedom to live? I am not going to turn this into a political debate, but the blood, boils down to just hardcore politics, and the ignorance of those who do not understand computer games, and use the media-as an excuse for their own lack of gun controls, and there war that kills people in real life. The media is nothing more then a scapegoat, the media merely reflects what is popular to us! They are not setting trends, we are! We want violence, they give it to us, whether or not they do, we still want it! The whole arguement about 'media' causing kids to murder-no, no it's a society that has forgotten that children need to be seen as individuals, and treated as such. It is society that kills, the media just reflects what we want.

Matt-
I understand why you removed the blood (at least I think I do) But I truly do not agree with it, and personally see it as something that very well may impact sales of the game on a fairly large scale. Please reconsider allowing an option, or perhaps the chance of a third-party to put a little in. Gratuitous violence is bad, but a little blood adds to the realism-use it with class, but not to excess.

It really seems ever since the Microsoft Buyout, and TakeTwo getting rights to Oni, that Bungie has really been worrying those of us who stuck with Bungie and bought their games-now it appears politics are yet another thing that will kill the bungie that we know---Next goes the sardonic wit from our games-heck we've lost the violence, were headed back to pacman-whoops too violent, tic-tac-toe-and I hope I don't live to see creativity be so limited by the politics of a world that murders under the flag of legality, calling it 'war'.


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Replies:

new screens...Claude Errera 11/13/00 12:43 p.m.
     Re: new screens...Dan Rudolph 11/13/00 1:15 p.m.
           Re: new screens...Pookie 11/13/00 3:34 p.m.
                 Re: new screens...(no motion blur !?!)Pico 11/13/00 4:39 p.m.
                       Also, where's the blood? (nt)Pico 11/13/00 4:47 p.m.
                             Re: Also, where's the blood?Dan Rudolph 11/13/00 5:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Also, where's the blood?Matt 11/13/00 5:20 p.m.
                                         :(noddy99 11/13/00 6:48 p.m.
                                               Re: :(Forensic 11/13/00 9:31 p.m.
                                                     Blood, blood, not everywhereRedox 11/13/00 9:36 p.m.
                                                           Re: Blood, blood, not everywhereBachus 11/13/00 10:12 p.m.
                                                                 No Blood: An air of respectabilityMatt 11/14/00 11:43 p.m.
                                                           Re: Blood, blood, not everywhereForensic 11/14/00 5:59 p.m.
                                               Violence in video games, and shallow-mindedness.Nijhazer 11/13/00 11:35 p.m.
                                                     Re: Violence in video games, and shallow-mindednesDan Rudolph 11/14/00 8:18 a.m.
                                                           Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/14/00 10:34 a.m.
                                                                 Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalNijhazer 11/14/00 11:08 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/14/00 2:13 p.m.
                                                                             Blood and animeTheMaz 11/14/00 6:54 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalClaude Errera 11/14/00 11:17 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalHarry 11/14/00 11:41 a.m.
                                                                       Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/14/00 1:52 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalbabu 11/14/00 2:09 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalDan Rudolph 11/14/00 2:15 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/14/00 2:20 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalMark Levin 11/14/00 2:54 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/14/00 6:22 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalHarry 11/14/00 6:29 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/15/00 8:02 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalMark Levin 11/14/00 7:18 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalMaestro 11/14/00 8:46 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalbabu 11/15/00 4:33 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/15/00 7:56 a.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/15/00 7:52 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalDan Rudolph 11/14/00 9:09 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalYujenisis 11/15/00 7:50 a.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalbabu 11/15/00 4:31 a.m.
                                                                             A thought...Harry 11/14/00 4:13 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Shallow-Mindedness? It's all so hypocriticalDan Rudolph 11/14/00 2:11 p.m.
                                               about rantz below...Maestro 11/14/00 5:34 p.m.
                                                     Re: about rantz below...pookie 11/15/00 5:07 a.m.
                                                           Re: about rantz below... [nt]Porchia Mike 4/17/01 9:30 a.m.
                                         Stupid Question: Entirely out? (nt)Mojo 11/14/00 4:32 p.m.
                       Re: new screens...(no motion blur !?!)Maestro 11/13/00 4:59 p.m.
     Re: new screens...Bachus 11/13/00 2:25 p.m.
           Re: new screens...MakeMineRed 11/13/00 2:54 p.m.
     Re: new screens...Char the pirate (IMG) 11/13/00 6:03 p.m.
           Re: new screens...Harry 11/13/00 6:42 p.m.
     Re: new screens...Steve 11/14/00 12:08 p.m.



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