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Re: Connacht came before Ceiscoran

Posted By: Forrest (cache1.avtel.net)
Date: 11/17/1999 at 11:24 a.m.

In Response To: Re: Connacht came before Ceiscoran (Ares)

: Yeah, but according to the MythTFL opening cutscene, it
: was thirty years - seventeen for the West and thirteen
: for the East. Another place where the story is
: self-contradictory :P

And, IIRC, we have decided that later-mentioned facts supercede previous ones, correct? (And on a related note, and that electronic media supercedes paper media too, right?). So, the M2 dates would be considered correct.

: Ah, playing devil's advocate I see. Well, seeing as
: Ceiscoran is *immortal* he probably didn't die of old
: age or disease. And seeing as he's protected by the
: fiercest fighting force in the world, I doubt he'd
: fall in battle. And if he DID fall in battle, that
: fighting force, the Heron Guad would be a LOT more
: dishonoured than if he fell while they were away,
: right?!?

Not if they were killed first, which they would have to be to kill a Bruig emperor (unless the Guards got called off elsewhere, like they did in the Great War)

: It would mean they REALLY screwed up! It
: would mean they'd have to, like, KILL themselves or
: something, or at least take on a stiffer penance than
: becoming Jmen. Since they *didn't* become Jmen or
: anything more drastic at this point, he can't have
: died until they were at Bagrada, and then logically,
: Ceiscoran was the emperor that caused them to become
: Jmen, therefore he was the last one before Alric.

One question that arises here is, if emperors don't die of old age or sickness, and aren't killed in battle, and aren't assasinated (with the exception of the last one before Alric), then how DO they die? Do they ALL become Levellers and get killed by the next Great Hero? If so, was Tireces a Bruig emperor? Did Clovis become a Leveller?

Or do they usually die on the throne in the first place? Maybe, like Connacht, they all got tired of ruling an old empire and went in search of greater power elsewhere, in which case they could die in battle or, if without Mandrake, of old age or disease.

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