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Posted By: Quirel <I_am_quirel@hotmail.com>Date: 12/5/09 9:58 p.m.


I thought the title of this post was appropriate, as one impressed Halo fan here wrote "OMFGBBQLOLWUTFANGASM!", and my reaction to "The Package" was completely different.

Anyhow, I'm let down with this (and yes, with most of Legends) for a lot of reasons that I feel could have been avoided had more time been allocated to the production of the shorts, and had they been better funded (And, in certain parts, handed better writers)

:: 5. Oh man, stop killing Spartans you guys. It makes them look so lame if they
:: constantly die.
:It took two Covenant Battle Cruisers and a massive bomb to take out two Spartans.
:That's pretty damned tough.

No sir. No, it isn't.
In fact, it's rather pathetic.
What made the Spartans “Awesome!” was that they were the ultimate weapons, tin cans that had gone through the entire war with only three casualties.
Now we have one that dies because she couldn't hear an Brute bullrushing her from three meters behind her. We have one that decides to go on his lonesome and dies... to Hell with the whole “Gears in a machine” teamwork written so eloquently by Nylund. We have another who dies... Aw hell, we need another one to die because we feel like it, so let's kill him!

Killing off Spartans reminds me of something in Spinal Tap. Remember the Amp that goes to Eleven?
“Check this amp out! You know how most amps have volume levels from one to ten? Well, when you need that little extra, this amp goes to eleven!”
“Is it louder?”
“It's one louder.”
“Why not make 10 louder and make 10 the highest?”
“...this amp... goes to eleven.”

“Why kill off Spartans?”
“Because it's cool.”
“Why not have them go the extra mile and fight their way out of the traps?”
“... these Spartans die.”

It really disappointed me that Solomon had five seconds to react to the bomb and he didn't do anything! I mean, at least SHOOT at it. The way we're going, all the Spartans are going to be dead by the time we get to Reach.

Next thing that sticks out: The Space Harleys. (Let it be known that I came up with that name.)
Ok, I guess they're called 'Booster Frames'. A number of problems plagued these, and made them as bad as I thought they were going to be.

Eins: Eric Nylund went to all the trouble of explaining (In GoO) the minute details and problems of space combat, why EVA suits are needed, why such a large visor is wanted.

And you guys throw it out the window for... Space Harleys. Which maneuver in space like a Warthog on 'roids, despite the drivers operating them like motorcycles. Seems rather ungrateful to your best author.

Second problem: the shields...
Again, back to the Nylund books. Humans are wizards with tech, but only when the tech is handed to them. That's the impression I got from GoO, First Strike, and the latter parts of FoR. Seeing the Booster Frames mit shields, while the Seraphs (going against canon) do not, seems weird to me.

Third problem: In the books, it takes a full MAC round to punch through the ship's shields. The booster frames do it with miniMACs and small missiles. Seriously, breaching the shields could have been done without breaching canon or making the Covenant ships look erbärmlich. Can't wait for the explanation.

Vier: Das Maschinengewehr on the back of the Booster Frame. Yeah, I know it was a visual shout out to the Warthogs, but the idea that these things were given rotary guns just in case another frame was destroyed and the Spartan was picked up seems pretty far-fetched to me. Would have been better if Kelly had pulled a rocket launcher out of a compartment, intended to store the Spartan's weapons until they boarded the cruiser...

Major, yet minor problem: The voice acting.
This is a running problem with anime movies (When they need ENGLISH voice actors). There are decent english voice actors out there, but they don't come cheap.
That's what happens when you try and make these on a shoestring budget. TBH, I'd rather have these once every six months, with the DVD sales of the first one going to the production of the next one.

Although the guy who voiced the Starscream Elite needs to be gutted by starving Jackals, which have been infected with the T-Virus. It is nur fair.

: It would make sense in Truth's grand plan. To hell if the Sangheili like it
: or not, if the Prophets demand Brutes on ships, I'm sure they will be
: there.

Yeah... aber Brutes disgraced themselves over Harvest and the Sangheili are in charge of security (As per the Writ of Union) and can do stuff for security that the Prophets can't naysay (Like integrating the Grunts into the armed forces. Was mentioned in either GoO or CH) If this was closer to 2552, I'd say that's likely, but since Frankie blatantly refused to give a time-stamp...

: You don't need Mark VI for shields. And note that their shields are fairly
: poor compared to the game. Also note the tech being employed by that ONI
: ship.

No, you need Mark V, at least.

At least, that's the impression I got from FoR, that the whole point of the Mark V was that it now had the shield tech integrated and the equipment to run an AI.
Well, you know, since Halsey had to explain that they got the tech from Jackal Gauntlets and such, I figured that it must have been a pretty new development.

: Visual retcons are necessary. Or we end up with 400 poly models of the Chief
: forever.

Well, yeah, I just hope that the armor looks similar, just more high poly.

But what about tech retcons? What about timeline retcons? Is it anything goes?

: Mostly an excuse to have them gain some mechanical interest - but also puts
: the retros and weapons further out from the body of mass. Spin around on a
: playground roundabout. Now spin around with your arms extended. One of
: these is faster than the other.

Uh... Frankie? Spinning with your arms out is just for balance. Because, you know, it's harder to stabilize a long, thin object by spinning it.

Check it out for yourself. A skater spins mit her arms extended, and then spins faster as she pulls her arms in. Conservation of Angular Momentum.

: When writing about a fictional universe, I would say it is better to think
: "What happened in this universe that I can write about" rather
: than "What story should I write". If you think of the universe
: as being real, and that these events ACTUALLY HAPPENED, you end up with a
: much better story, because it fits together. On the other hand, if you
: think of the canon as something that can be changed to make way for a
: cooler story, the story becomes weaker overall because the
: "facts" are always changing.
: I REALLY hope that Legends is just a shaky start to Microsoft's full control
: of the Halo franchise.

As a fanfiction author and a Halo fan, if I could have this guy's babies, I would.
Unfortunately, I'm straight as a laser and I'm male, so he's going to have to settle for ONI issue clones.

So... TLDR:
Major mistakes and eye candy-for-the-sake-of-eye candy in this.
Halo Evolutions Good, Halo Legends Bad.
And yes, there is German in this. It happens when I type fast.


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FanblockQuirel 12/5/09 9:58 p.m.
     Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Azo 'Galvat 12/5/09 10:54 p.m.
           Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Quirel 12/6/09 12:41 a.m.
                 Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Azo 'Galvat 12/6/09 8:53 a.m.
                       Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Bry 12/6/09 9:03 a.m.
                             Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Quirel 12/6/09 2:19 p.m.
                                   Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)rolandk73 12/6/09 2:21 p.m.
                                         Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)scarab 12/6/09 2:50 p.m.
                                         I thought the Halo Bible was a joke? *NM*Silent Knight 12/6/09 3:57 p.m.
                                               Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Azo 'Galvat 12/6/09 9:44 p.m.
                                                     Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/7/09 6:09 a.m.
                                                           Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Archilen 12/7/09 6:28 a.m.
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                                                                             Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?AngelicLionheart 12/8/09 4:02 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Archilen 12/8/09 4:07 p.m.
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                                                                                               Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Archilen 12/8/09 4:10 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Quirel 12/8/09 5:09 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Silent Knight 12/8/09 5:37 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Quirel 12/8/09 6:18 p.m.
                                                                                               Tall guy is tall.AngelicLionheart 12/8/09 10:32 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I thought the Halo Bible was a joke?Leisandir 12/8/09 3:47 p.m.
                                   Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Bry 12/6/09 2:29 p.m.
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                                               Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Bry 12/6/09 2:47 p.m.
                                                     Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/6/09 3:14 p.m.
                                                           Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Archilen 12/6/09 3:35 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Bry 12/6/09 4:18 p.m.
                                                                       Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)General Vagueness 12/6/09 5:50 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Bry 12/6/09 7:55 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Hedgemony 12/6/09 8:10 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Quirel 12/6/09 9:56 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Azo 'Galvat 12/6/09 10:09 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: Apocalypse now, thank you *NM*Hedgemony 12/6/09 10:13 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Apocalypse now, thank youQuirel 12/6/09 10:25 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: Outstanding, outstandingHedgemony 12/6/09 10:59 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Outstanding, outstandingQuirel 12/6/09 11:48 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Apocalypse now, thank youAzo 'Galvat 12/6/09 10:37 p.m.
                                                                 Re: Fanblock (speaking directly)Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 12/6/09 4:18 p.m.
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           Re: FanblockQuirel 12/7/09 10:53 a.m.
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