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| lol feminism | |
| Posted By: Cody Miller | Date: 10/2/09 12:03 p.m. |
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Whoever wrote this article is so clueless. The game reads like an example of text and subtext feminists would loathe, with a condescending story and female characterization that does nothing but push forth antiquated views on what it means to be 'female'.
Antiquated views on what it means to be female have women cooking and cleaning and raising children. Where did ODST push these views? Oh right it didn't; wrong already. Halo: ODST falls at the first hurdle with regards to what is fair by making ALL playable characters on all levels male. Given these characters are numerous, one would have assumed that equipped with the knowledge that women do enjoy Halo, the developers would have thrown in the token playable female.
Sure, let's throw in a token female just for the hell of it, instead of a meaningful female character. That would make the game so much better. I'd also love an explanation as to why females enjoying the game has anything to do with having a playable female character. As for everyone but Dare being male, did you ever think that was done to set up the dichotomy between her and and the rest of the team? Captain Veronica Dare is a Captain in the UNSC Navy, as well as an officer for Naval Intelligence. She is actually the commanding officer in charge of the Shock Troop detail, but you wouldn't know it. From her entrance into the game she is not treated as the Commanding Officer, she is instead immediately denoted as the 'hot chick', by her subordinates who show no respect for her leadership role..
And isn't this behavior eventually condemned because her orders and mission WERE in fact critical in the ongoing fight? Things would have been better if they had obeyed all along! At this point Dare responds by telling Buck to be careful because "it won't be much of a rescue if you're dead", just incase we didn't realize this was definitely a rescue mission to save our damsel in distress. Yes, the same damsel in distress who we’re meant to believe is the Officer's Candidate School graduate, Commanding Officer and Naval Intelligence Officer in charge of this entire mission... the woman who seemingly can't even take care of herself. Silly girl.
I can agree here. Dare: "it was my op and it’s my interrogation. We only captured one, its very delicate."
Avery Johnson: "Don't worry, I know what the aliens like" They head into the interrogation area and he takes over immediately and does whatever the hell he likes, thus dismissing all she said about it being her op. She stands idly by and of course, it all goes well, because let's face it, she should just speak when spoken to and the only guy under her should be whoever she's frakking.
Johnson is an embarrassing parody of black coolness and masculinity. Pretty much EVERYTHING he does is like this; I doubt it's a jab at Dare. It is pretty obvious what the problems in Halo: ODST are, but we'll blurt them out anyway. The first is that Bungie could have easily made the Rookie character male or female.
Yes, because that choice would have any affect at all given that we never see the rookie's face, never hear him speak, and he's never given any characterization anyway. How would you make the hand models different? Doesn't the rookie have gloves on? What would it MEAN to make 'female looking' hands anyway? The second problem is of course the fact the female officer - Veronica Dare - is painted as a dumbass sex object with no power. The guys at Bungie must think they've done such a wonderful thing by having the character in charge of the entire mission be female, but they bungled it and dropped the plasma grenade
Right, she has no power. That's why we never saved Virgil and her mission was never a success. She succeeded DESPITE the crew's sexism. Let's just forget that she overcame that.
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| Replies: |
| lol feminism | Cody Miller | 10/2/09 12:03 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Eiii | 10/2/09 12:34 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Phat Bob | 10/2/09 12:48 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | slothboy | 10/2/09 12:56 p.m. |
| Dude | Jillybean | 10/2/09 12:59 p.m. |
| Beat me to it | Eiii | 10/2/09 1:00 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | slothboy | 10/2/09 1:08 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | Eiii | 10/2/09 1:10 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | slothboy | 10/2/09 1:19 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | Bry | 10/2/09 1:22 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | Eiii | 10/2/09 1:25 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | slothboy | 10/2/09 1:33 p.m. |
| Re: Dude | Bry | 10/2/09 2:12 p.m. |
| Does anybody like Miranda? *NM* | scarab | 10/3/09 6:24 a.m. |
| Re: Dude | kanbo | 10/2/09 3:09 p.m. |
| This is a good post | Miguel Chavez | 10/2/09 11:48 p.m. |
| Her leader power is frigidity! Nuff Said *NM* | scarab | 10/3/09 6:25 a.m. |
| Dude where's my AI | Narcogen | 10/2/09 9:36 p.m. |
| This is a good post | Miguel Chavez | 10/2/09 11:48 p.m. |
| I agree | Jillybean | 10/3/09 4:38 a.m. |
| Re: Excellently put | ThorsHammer | 10/3/09 10:30 a.m. |
| In response to the article | Dustbunny27 | 10/3/09 4:49 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | slothboy | 10/2/09 12:51 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism *poss SP | Bry | 10/2/09 1:04 p.m. |
| But she needed help! That's weak! *NM* | Eiii | 10/2/09 1:12 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | kanbo | 10/2/09 12:54 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | slothboy | 10/2/09 12:58 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Dojorkan | 10/2/09 1:32 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | General Vagueness | 10/2/09 12:57 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Captain Spark | 10/2/09 1:01 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Jillybean | 10/2/09 1:11 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Eiii | 10/2/09 1:24 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Jillybean | 10/2/09 1:31 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Eiii | 10/2/09 2:05 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | General Vagueness | 10/2/09 2:22 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | kanbo | 10/2/09 3:12 p.m. |
| Can't rape what isn't there! *NM* | Eiii | 10/2/09 3:40 p.m. |
| Re: Can't rape what isn't there! | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 4:55 p.m. |
| Re: Can't rape what isn't there! | Ze Moose | 10/2/09 5:31 p.m. |
| Re: Can't rape what isn't there! | Jillybean | 10/2/09 6:37 p.m. |
| Re: Can't rape what isn't there! | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 6:57 p.m. |
| Re: Can't rape what isn't there! | Jillybean | 10/2/09 7:07 p.m. |
| Re: Can't rape what isn't there! | ThorsHammer | 10/3/09 11:05 a.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Captain Spark | 10/2/09 2:32 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Miguel Chavez | 10/2/09 4:18 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | General Vagueness | 10/2/09 4:48 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Captain Spark | 10/2/09 6:17 p.m. |
| Re: END THIS THREAD PLEASE | Hedgemony | 10/2/09 6:36 p.m. |
| Re: END THIS THREAD PLEASE | Eiii | 10/2/09 7:09 p.m. |
| Re: END THIS THREAD PLEASE | Cody Miller | 10/2/09 7:23 p.m. |
| r-really? *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 7:29 p.m. |
| You are dumb *NM* | Eiii | 10/2/09 7:30 p.m. |
| Oh crap now it just looks like I'm agreeing with h *NM* | Eiii | 10/2/09 7:34 p.m. |
| with hp, captain handsome awesome. *NM* | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 7:45 p.m. |
| Re:Cody | Hedgemony | 10/2/09 7:57 p.m. |
| Re:Cody | Cody Miller | 10/2/09 8:08 p.m. |
| Re:Cody who? | Hedgemony | 10/2/09 8:51 p.m. |
| Re:Cody who? | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 9:08 p.m. |
| Re:Cody who? | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 9:13 p.m. |
| Re:Cody | Hedgemony | 10/2/09 9:53 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | UNSC_Trooper | 10/2/09 1:12 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | Jillybean | 10/2/09 1:14 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | UNSC_Trooper | 10/2/09 1:27 p.m. |
| lol equality for all | Jillybean | 10/2/09 1:51 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | UNSC_Trooper | 10/2/09 2:32 p.m. |
| please | General Vagueness | 10/2/09 4:54 p.m. |
| Re: please | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 4:57 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | Hunt3r | 10/2/09 2:39 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | Cody Miller | 10/2/09 2:42 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | kanbo | 10/2/09 3:03 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | Jillybean | 10/2/09 6:22 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | DHalo | 10/2/09 6:39 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | Jillybean | 10/2/09 6:19 p.m. |
| Re: lol equality for all | Photolysis | 10/2/09 3:16 p.m. |
| For her next article... | Bones153 | 10/2/09 4:41 p.m. |
| Re: For her next article... | Eiii | 10/2/09 5:41 p.m. |
| That's sarcasm, right? *NM* *NM* | Bones153 | 10/2/09 5:45 p.m. |
| I am totally guilty of this | Jillybean | 10/2/09 6:24 p.m. |
| Re: I am totally guilty of this | Hawaiian Pig | 10/2/09 6:35 p.m. |
| Re: I am totally guilty of this | Jillybean | 10/2/09 6:38 p.m. |
| Re: I am totally guilty of this | Tex | 10/2/09 6:46 p.m. |
| Stop helping me *NM* | Jillybean | 10/2/09 6:51 p.m. |
| I wish I could quit you. | Tex | 10/2/09 6:56 p.m. |
| Re: I wish I could quit you. | Jillybean | 10/2/09 7:08 p.m. |
| Re: I am totally guilty of this | Cody Miller | 10/2/09 6:47 p.m. |
| Re: I am totally guilty of this | Miguel Chavez | 10/3/09 12:42 a.m. |
| Re: I am totally guilty of this | Cthulhu117 | 10/3/09 11:32 a.m. |
| People think Dare was sexualized? LOL! | Dustbunny27 | 10/3/09 11:27 a.m. |
| Re: People think Dare was sexualized? LOL! | Jillybean | 10/3/09 3:10 p.m. |
| Re: People think Dare was sexualized? LOL! | Dustbunny27 | 10/3/09 3:37 p.m. |
| Re: lol feminism | psychophan7 | 10/3/09 11:37 a.m. |
| I have a hard time grasping this, personally *IMG* | Leviathan | 10/3/09 12:18 p.m. |
| Serious Question for the ladies... or maybe men | Dustbunny27 | 10/3/09 2:23 p.m. |
| Re: Serious Question for the ladies... or maybe me | Leviathan | 10/3/09 3:02 p.m. |
| Okay, make a game for everyone then. | Dustbunny27 | 10/3/09 3:34 p.m. |
| Re: Okay, make a game for everyone then. | Leviathan | 10/3/09 5:50 p.m. |
| A couple that stand out for me | Jillybean | 10/3/09 3:16 p.m. |
| Re: A couple that stand out for me | Cody Miller | 10/3/09 4:01 p.m. |
| Re: A couple that stand out for me | Jillybean | 10/3/09 4:40 p.m. |
| Re: Serious Question for the ladies... or maybe me | Document | 10/4/09 12:17 a.m. |
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