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Re: Halogen Beta?
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>	Date: 10/4/06 12:07 a.m.
In Response To: Re: Halogen Beta? (WortWortWort) : Halo Gen > Halo Wars. : I'm sorry, but I wanted to see this fan made project finish and Microsoft and : their big selfish ass had to blow it. They're selfish for asserting ownership rights of something they've spent millions of dollars to purchase, and then millions more to develop? Come on, they worked so damn hard on : it and they stop them right near there finish! I bet you Halo Gen would've : been more creative than Halo Wars. Unfortunately for the fans of Halogen, there is no amount of sweat equity that you can put into a project that can legally compel the owners of the property on which it is based to give up their rights and concede to you. And that is only right. Sure Halo Wars will have the : officialness and the graphics and what not, but Halo Gen was working on : something bigger. Gameplay, Story, etc. I am disgusted by Microsoft. Now : if HaloGen didn't exist or didn't look too good I would appreciate Halo : Wars a lot more. This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. How can anyone possibly expect Microsoft to build its development schedule based around a fan project just so you can have the luxury of deciding if the free (and infringing) Halo fan project that does nothing but benefit the publishers of Command & Conquer Generals (a competitor) is as good or better than their own game? People keep trying to portray this as a competition between big, bad Microsoft and the hard-working group of humble and faithful fans. And it just isn't so. By putting Halo designs and content into a modification for a strategy game from a competing developer, it puts Ensemble's product up against Command & Conquer, plus it prevents Microsoft from effectively using the Halo property the way they want: which is to promote the Xbox platform. Regardless of whether Halogen was good, bad, or indifferent, since it used a competitor's RTS engine all it would do would be to promote sales of that game, and since it runs on Windows and Mac all it would do would undercut Halo Wars by telling people that they don't need to buy a Halo RTS games from the owners of Halo, and they don't need to buy an Xbox to play a Halo RTS game. In other words, you can play a Halo RTS without paying anything whatsoever to the owners and developers of Halo. Most-- not all, it seems, but most-- of the Halogen team have gotten over this, are moving on, and working to release their mod without Halo content, since much of what they did was original. Is it too much to ask the rest of this mod's supposed fans to do the same? It looks to be a good game, but I just can't appreciate : it the same way as most people are. It may be good, and I probably will : get it since it's the only Halo RTS, but I will have a changed opinion on : it now. You're only punishing yourself, then-- and honestly for no good reason.

Halo Wars: Codenamed "Phoenix"?

Message Index

Halogen Beta?	Sharkface217	10/3/06 2:37 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	KP	10/3/06 2:52 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	WortWortWort	10/3/06 7:39 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	WortWortWort	10/3/06 7:42 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	WortWortWort	10/3/06 7:53 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	N/A	10/3/06 8:01 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	DarkSim	10/3/06 8:17 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	WortWortWort	10/3/06 9:18 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Narcogen	10/4/06 12:16 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Miguel Chavez	10/4/06 9:01 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	UrsusArctos	10/4/06 9:20 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Matt	10/4/06 9:45 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Hawaiian Pig	10/4/06 10:40 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Matt	10/4/06 2:39 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Dry Ice	10/4/06 3:06 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Dry Ice	10/4/06 3:09 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Narcogen	10/4/06 10:56 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Matt	10/4/06 2:37 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Count Zero	10/4/06 3:00 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Louis Wu	10/4/06 3:27 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Hawaiian Pig	10/4/06 7:23 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	10/4/06 9:56 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Narcogen	10/4/06 10:54 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Hawaiian Pig	10/4/06 10:58 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Schedonnardus	10/4/06 3:26 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Matt	10/4/06 3:42 p.m.
Someone's been swigging the cough syrup again. *NM*	Louis Wu	10/4/06 4:32 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	mercury	10/4/06 4:38 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Narcogen	10/4/06 8:32 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Schedonnardus	10/5/06 11:06 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Endbringer	10/5/06 11:31 a.m.
Nice!	Miguel Chavez	10/5/06 12:41 p.m.
Re: Nice!	Sep7imus [subnova]	10/5/06 2:12 p.m.
This is what I meant, yes	Miguel Chavez	10/4/06 5:44 p.m.
A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	RedMoney999	10/4/06 8:08 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	Narcogen	10/4/06 8:59 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	Miguel Chavez	10/4/06 10:21 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	Sep7imus [subnova]	10/5/06 2:22 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	RedMonkey999	10/5/06 11:18 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	Louis Wu	10/6/06 4:45 a.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	RedMonkey999	10/8/06 3:44 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Konrad	10/4/06 11:08 a.m.
Heh! *NM*	Stuntmutt	10/4/06 11:15 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Narcogen	10/4/06 12:07 a.m.
Couldn't be said any better. *NM*	Cocopjojo	10/4/06 1:22 a.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	BARBARIC RAGE	10/4/06 12:21 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	mercury	10/4/06 1:22 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	mercury	10/3/06 4:43 p.m.
Bungie didn't shut them down.	58	10/3/06 5:40 p.m.
Re: Bungie didn't shut them down.	Sharkface217	10/3/06 7:59 p.m.
Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Narcogen	10/4/06 12:22 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Rox	10/4/06 3:07 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Narcogen	10/4/06 4:14 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Rox	10/4/06 7:54 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Narcogen	10/4/06 10:58 a.m.
HBO: Waiting for Microsoft lawyers to shut us down *NM*	Stuntmutt	10/4/06 8:44 a.m.
They'll be sure to shut down One One Se7en first	UrsusArctos	10/4/06 8:47 a.m.
Re: They'll be sure to shut down One One Se7en fir	UrsusArctos	10/4/06 8:50 a.m.
To clarify my position...	Stuntmutt	10/4/06 9:18 a.m.
Re: To clarify my position...	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	10/4/06 9:53 a.m.
Re: To clarify my position...	A of T	10/4/06 11:54 a.m.
Re: To clarify my position...	Miguel Chavez	10/4/06 3:45 p.m.
Re: To clarify my position...	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	10/4/06 3:54 p.m.
Re: To clarify my position...	Blck	10/5/06 2:27 p.m.
Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :p	vshields ash	10/6/06 4:25 a.m.
Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :p	ShortRoundMcfly	10/6/06 7:05 p.m.
Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :p	UrsusArctos	10/7/06 11:53 p.m.
Re: To clarify my position...try starcraft :p	Sparkamus	10/8/06 12:51 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Miguel Chavez	10/4/06 9:03 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Vlad3163	10/4/06 9:48 a.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	ShortRoundMcfly	10/4/06 12:58 p.m.
Re: Bungie's role in Halogen shutdown	Narcogen	10/4/06 9:02 p.m.
Re: Bungie didn't shut them down.	mercury	10/4/06 1:09 p.m.
Re: Halogen Beta?	Quikthnkr	10/4/06 1:37 p.m.
A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	RedMonkey999	10/4/06 8:17 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	Sharkface217	10/4/06 8:47 p.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take on the Situation	The 'Loot	10/5/06 2:47 a.m.
Re: A Mod Developer's Take-meh...	vshields ash	10/6/06 4:42 a.m.