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Significance of Forerunner location in H3 Trailer
Posted By: BeastIce <jclowder@hotmail.com>Date: 5/14/06 12:05 p.m.

The Halo 3 announcement trailer, even though awesome, has really provided us with more questions than answers. One question that I had is where exactly is the Forerunner structure?? Frankie answered by saying that the mountain in the background is Mt. Kilimanjaro. Last night I analyzed multiple pictures of Kilimanjaro as well as topographical maps of Kenya and Tanzania. I compared many of the pictures I found with the Halo 3 announcement trailer and it seems that based on the positions of the 3 peaks of Kilimanjaro that the Chief is roughly East or East North East of Kilimanjaro. Because you can see New Mombassa bridge in the background offers more evidence that the Master Chief is roughly East of Kilimanjaro. I am assuming that New Mombassa in Halo 2 and 3 are in roughly the same area in Africa as the present-day, Kenyan city Mombassa. It is more likely that the MC is East-North-East of Kilimanjaro because you can see the the edge of Kilimanjaro and the remains of the New Mombassa bridge in the same shot of the Trailer. In order for this to be possible the Chief must be a little East-North-East of Kilimanjaro, unless the bridge was blown a couple hundred miles inland by the blast of Regret's slipspace jump. Of course this is not the case if New Mombassa is in a different postion along the East African coast than Mombassa. Even if New Mombassa is not in the exact same geographical position as Mombassa the Chief is still somewhere East(northeast or southeast or just east) of Kilimanjaro based on the photographs and topographical maps that I analyzed. You can study them too, just google image search Kilimanjaro or maps of Tanzania and Kenya.

After analyzing the position of the Chief I began researching the origins of Mt Kilimanjaro. I found out that the name Kilimanjaro comes from two words in the Chaaga language, Kilima and Njaro which literally mean "mountain of god". Anyone claiming the theory that the Forerunners are gods can stand up, high-five eachother and add that to your repertiore. I personally do not hold that theory.

Kilimanjaro was formed from the Great Rift Valley during the sepeartion of the Arabian Techtonic Plate from the African Techtonic Plate starting about 35 million years ago. Starting about 15 million years ago East Africa began to seperate from mainland Africa along the East African Rift, which continues to this day. It is proposed that in a few million years East Africa will seperate completely from the rest of Africa. What is so important about the Great Rift Valley and East African Rift Valley you might say??? As the Chapelle show once stated Africa is the "Cradle of mother f*cking civilization". The Rift Valley has been a rich source of anthropological discovery. Because the rapidly eroding highlands have filled the valley with sediments, a favorable environment for the preservation of remains has been created. The bones of several hominid ancestors of modern humans have been found there, including those of "Lucy", a nearly complete australopithecine skeleton(credit to Wikipedia). Granted Lucy was found in Ethiopia, she was still found along the East Africa rift. Lucy's species, Australopithecus afarensis, have been found all along East Africa in Tanzania and Kenya, the same area that the Forerunner structure appears to be. This means the area where the Forerunner structure was found is along the same stretch of valley that our hominid ancestors began to evolutionarily seperate from other primate ancestors. The evolutionary significance of the Great Rift Valley could be evidence for the theory that the Forerunner had a hand in our evolutionary development, which lends to the fact that the Master Chief and Miranda Keyes are known as Reclaimers by the monitors.

How long could the Forerunner structure be buried there?? I tried to piece the geographical history of the area together, but what I have found leads me to believe that the area East of Kilimanjaro has been above sea level since the formation of the Earth. So the Forerunner could have buried the structure at any time during the history of the Earth but probably most likely more than 100,000 years ago. I say these dates because I think the firing of Halo 04 was roughly 100,000 years ago. I figure that the Forerunner built the structure under Africa around the same time as they built the Halos, but that is just an educated guess. Either way, the architecture of the Ark must be enormously strong to sustain countless earthquakes in the area over time. It lies on a fault line and, therefore, very susceptible to earthquake damage. To have gone through so much time along a fault line and still be able to work, move and apparently activate is truly amazing. The Forerunner must have had access to materials of tremendous strength and endurance.

Another interesting tidbit is the relation to the Ark of the Covenant, the ancient Hebrew artifact said to contain the original 10 Commandments given to Moses by God on Mount Sainai. Tracing the history of the Ark of the Covenant has tried to be done but it seems to be lost in antiquity. An African monk in Ethiopia claims to have the Ark in his monestary but this has never been confirmed because he refuses to let anyone in to see it and he is the only man known to have a key. I doubt that this is true because if he wanted to keep the Ark a secret, why tell people he has it only to refuse to let them see it?

All in all, the trailer gave us a lot of broad information but answered no really specific questions about the way the "arc" of the story will go. I hope this adds information to peoples' theories and doesnt supply spam fodder.


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Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TrailerBeastIce 5/14/06 12:05 p.m.
     Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiLostRock11 5/14/06 12:53 p.m.
           Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/14/06 2:29 p.m.
                 Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiLostRock11 5/14/06 3:51 p.m.
     Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 Traisilentsailor 5/14/06 2:02 p.m.
           Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiDundradal 5/14/06 5:12 p.m.
     Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiApe Man 5/14/06 7:31 p.m.
           Where've you been, man????UrsusArctos 5/14/06 7:50 p.m.
                 Check this outQuantum 5/14/06 8:00 p.m.
                       Re: Check this outApe Man 5/14/06 8:19 p.m.
                             front-paged *NM*Miguel Chavez 5/14/06 8:48 p.m.
                             Re: Check this outShadowsniper689 5/14/06 9:01 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outgunluva 5/14/06 9:07 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outnjdshadow 5/14/06 9:13 p.m.
                                         Re: Check this outQuantum 5/14/06 9:21 p.m.
                                               Re: Check this outUrsusArctos 5/14/06 9:54 p.m.
                                               Re: Check this outfludblud 5/15/06 8:06 a.m.
                                                     Re: Check this outStephen L. (SoundEffect) 5/15/06 7:28 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outQuantum 5/14/06 9:15 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/14/06 10:00 p.m.
                                         D'oh! For "strait" read "estuary". *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/14/06 10:24 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outApe Man 5/15/06 11:18 a.m.
                             Re: Check this outJLChief 5/14/06 9:07 p.m.
                             Re: Check this outMasta Chef 5/14/06 10:01 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outSaS 5/14/06 10:07 p.m.
                                         Re: Check this outJLChief 5/15/06 1:42 a.m.
                             Re: Check this outAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/14/06 10:16 p.m.
                                   that's pretty amazing *NM*Miguel Chavez 5/14/06 10:25 p.m.
                                   Re: Check this outKnightPremier 5/15/06 12:03 p.m.
                                         Re: Check this outAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/15/06 9:06 p.m.
                                               Re: Check this outKnightPremier 5/16/06 4:04 a.m.
                             Re: Check this outMarkHawk 5/15/06 6:11 a.m.
                             Wouldn't it really fall west?Dry Ice 5/15/06 7:08 a.m.
                                   Re: Wouldn't it really fall west?Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 5/15/06 8:10 a.m.
                                         Re: Wouldn't it really fall west?Dry Ice 5/15/06 9:53 a.m.
                                               Or maybe only 20min to fall 30 miles *NM*Dry Ice 5/15/06 10:32 a.m.
                                               RegardlessMiguel Chavez 5/15/06 12:45 p.m.
                                   Re: Wouldn't it really fall west?Ape Man 5/15/06 11:06 a.m.
                                         Re: Wouldn't it really fall west?UrsusArctos 5/15/06 7:01 p.m.
           Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiKnightPremier 5/15/06 4:23 a.m.
                 Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiExodus7 5/15/06 4:51 a.m.
                       Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiExodus7 5/15/06 1:06 p.m.
                       Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 Traisorahn 5/15/06 3:13 p.m.
                             Re: Significance of Forerunner location in H3 TraiKnightPremier 5/16/06 4:17 a.m.
     Voi or New Mombasa?yakaman 5/15/06 1:45 p.m.
           Ah, I understand now. Narc's recap is teh bomb. *NM*yakaman 5/15/06 4:11 p.m.
           Re: Voi or New Mombasa?Exodus7 5/15/06 4:37 p.m.



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