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Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...
Posted By: nofDate: 3/29/05 12:45 a.m.

In Response To: The Honeymoon's Over People (IcedPitchBlack)

This post really irks me. This guy mainly bitches about a fact of online gaming and maybe even life. There are going to be people you don’t like and people who don’t share you views.

I don’t know why this post is credited with so much enthusiasm and applause. It’s seems that a lot of individuals don’t understand what gaming is and who your involved in. There will be players who really obsess about their level, there will be players who cheat, and most importantly there will be immature kids. Who do you think games are marketed too? 40 year old men planning for a trip to Florida? No, kids. Does it suck? Yes. Would I rather have it different? Yes. Is it realistic to hold a higher ideal about a blissful state of gaming harmony? NO.

“No matter bad things might seem, they can’t be any better, they can’t be any worse, because that’s the way things fucking are, and you get better used to it nancy, quit your bitching.” - RvB

Trying to drop logic bombs on cheaters and immature kids is not going to change their attitude. He patronizes the cheaters, tries to reason with kids who don’t even have pubic hair yet, and chastises others who tell him what he already knows about himself ( he sucks at Halo 2 ). I really don’t know why this post made the frontpage of HBO. In a way I do and understand that somebody needs to take a stand and try to involve gaming into a more socially acceptable sport but I also understand that it’s not going to happen with people like the author of the post completely freaking our over the problem.

“Life sucks, go buy a helmet” –Dennis Leary

If anything is going to change the more mature gamers, the ones that have real jobs, and can’t play 24/7 are going to have to first recognize that there is very little we can do to change the collective attitude of millions of teenagers. The vast majority of gamers are children who do not adhere to maturity standards that older gamers set. I doubt there can be anything done to relieve the problem, we simply can’t play in each others sandboxes. The first step would be to stop this whiney nonsense and accept what you’re dealing with. I once shared the same views as this guy, but instead of crying on a public forum I started to play more custom games and even *gasp* other games until Bungie does more to fix the problems.

“If you are patient in one moment of anger, you will escape a hundred days of sorrow.” - Chinese Proverb

P.S. People are a main feature of the earth. Bungie didn’t make people, their behaviors and motivations. Deal.

P.P.S. This was originally going to be posted in my blog, but instead I'd rather reply here to hopefully stem the tide of proud elitism that is infecting the more mature gamers around here. Being haughty about this issue is just going to keep us angry about people who we really shouldn't give a shit about. Why do we keep playing matchmaking if it pisses us off so much? Would you blame piranas for eating you if you jumped into their tank?


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The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIcedPitchBlack 3/28/05 7:01 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleEchoes 3/28/05 7:13 p.m.
           Beautifully written, just calm down *NM*NickLee808 3/28/05 11:59 p.m.
                 Re: Beautifully written, just calm downWeapon X 3/29/05 9:08 a.m.
                       Re: Beautifully written, just calm downIcedPitchBlack 3/29/05 5:04 p.m.
                             Re: Beautifully written, just calm downDantesVenom 3/29/05 6:32 p.m.
           Age has NOTHING to do with it...Crimson Skull 3/29/05 12:42 p.m.
     Tell us what you really feel :)ManKitten 3/28/05 7:15 p.m.
     a-freakin-men! very well written *NM*Andrew J. 3/28/05 7:16 p.m.
           Re: a-freakin-men! very well writtenPhillip 3/28/05 10:14 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleAeroJonesy 3/28/05 7:20 p.m.
     Auteur! Auteur! *clap-clap-clap* *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/28/05 7:22 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIceman1330 3/28/05 7:33 p.m.
           ummm...ONI_operative_343 3/28/05 7:37 p.m.
                 Re: ummm...Iceman1330 3/28/05 7:44 p.m.
                       Re: ummm...Anthony 3/28/05 8:43 p.m.
                             Age is a horrible judging scale7ack [MetalSilver] 3/28/05 9:14 p.m.
                                   Re: Age is a horrible judging scalegspawn 3/28/05 9:49 p.m.
                                         HmmRipster40 3/29/05 7:27 p.m.
                                   Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleLagging N00b 3/28/05 10:01 p.m.
                                         Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleThe Freeloader 3/28/05 10:29 p.m.
                                               Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleSumSophisticatedName 3/28/05 10:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleTar 3/28/05 10:32 p.m.
                                                           Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleSumSophisticatedName 3/28/05 10:35 p.m.
                                         Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleIcedPitchBlack 3/28/05 11:52 p.m.
                                               Re: Age is a horrible judging scaleJinno 3/29/05 5:54 a.m.
                                   2 many Stereo typesMrChaotiX 3/29/05 7:06 p.m.
                             Hey wait a sec!Cablam 3/29/05 2:28 a.m.
                                   Re: Hey wait a sec!58 3/29/05 6:41 a.m.
                                         Re: Hey wait a sec!Cablam 3/29/05 6:58 a.m.
                                         Ratings (going OT)Louis Wu 3/29/05 7:39 a.m.
                                               Re: Ratings (going OT)KP 3/29/05 10:26 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleONI_operative_343 3/28/05 7:33 p.m.
     Letting it all outTablesandChairs4 3/28/05 7:49 p.m.
           Re: Letting it all outC-B 3/28/05 9:55 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleLASSIE 4F 3/28/05 7:54 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleBeauAE86 3/28/05 7:58 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopletsuranuku 3/28/05 8:30 p.m.
     Agreed! But here's my problem:Guardian 3/28/05 8:28 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleAnthony 3/28/05 8:33 p.m.
     Hmm,7ack [MetalSilver] 3/28/05 8:50 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleVerdafolio 3/28/05 8:52 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over People*Butcher 3/28/05 9:11 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSpastic Moose 3/28/05 9:28 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleTh3 Red Baron 3/28/05 9:35 p.m.
     front page'd!gspawn 3/28/05 9:50 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleCuban Assassin 3/28/05 9:51 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleZ1QR20 3/28/05 10:07 p.m.
     Yeah, cheating sucks.Pico 3/28/05 9:55 p.m.
           Re: Yeah, cheating sucks.The Freeloader 3/28/05 10:40 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleDarkshot 3/28/05 9:56 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSpart-Construct-117 3/28/05 9:57 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSuperCUBE 3/28/05 9:57 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIbeechu 3/28/05 9:58 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleCaptain Spark 3/28/05 10:02 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopleshotgun1230 3/28/05 10:03 p.m.
     Amen my friend *nm* *NM*thedarkfire 3/28/05 10:05 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleCapo Rip 3/28/05 10:07 p.m.
     Hooray!godofsmiles 3/28/05 10:07 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleBigHairyApe 3/28/05 10:08 p.m.
     This may be...Ibeechu 3/28/05 10:10 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplezink 3/28/05 10:17 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplezach 3/28/05 10:21 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIbeechu 3/28/05 10:22 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleBionicBurrito 3/29/05 9:30 a.m.
                 Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplezach 3/29/05 5:43 p.m.
     Amen *NM*ChaotikZero1 3/28/05 10:22 p.m.
     AmenGandhiArnold 3/28/05 10:26 p.m.
     I think I have a solution.Spec ops Grunt 3/28/05 10:30 p.m.
           Re: I think I have a solution.zach 3/28/05 10:33 p.m.
                 My OpinionsMrGotBeans 3/30/05 9:42 a.m.
           Re: I think I have a solution.Th3Tru7h 3/28/05 10:38 p.m.
           A Better Solution, one hinted at by IcedPitchBlackSyracuse022 3/28/05 11:02 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSilentone 3/28/05 10:34 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleFrogwart 3/28/05 10:37 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplezach 3/28/05 10:39 p.m.
     Thank you for saying what i been feelin' *NM* *NM*FoxHound01 3/28/05 10:40 p.m.
     A rebuttalgutupio 3/28/05 10:41 p.m.
           Re: The RiposteSalandarin 3/28/05 10:48 p.m.
                 Re: The Ripostegutupio 3/28/05 11:02 p.m.
                       Re: The RiposteLouis Wu 3/29/05 7:50 a.m.
                             Re: The RiposteAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/29/05 9:41 a.m.
                                   Re: The Ripostemercury 3/29/05 10:50 a.m.
           Re: A rebuttal...IMOCplSmithers 3/29/05 11:52 a.m.
           Re: A rebuttalAchronos 3/29/05 1:12 p.m.
                 Re: A rebuttalSep7imus [subnova] 3/29/05 2:40 p.m.
           Re: A rebuttalGuest with no name 3/29/05 8:59 p.m.
           No, sorry...B-Sharp 3/30/05 8:03 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopledevon nygren 3/28/05 10:46 p.m.
           There's nothing wrong with taking a game seriously *NM*JakeDaGreat 3/28/05 10:51 p.m.
                 Re: There's nothing wrong with taking a game serioAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/29/05 9:22 a.m.
                       Re: There's nothing wrong with taking a game serioLouis Wu 3/29/05 9:27 a.m.
                             Now digging fallout shelter. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/29/05 9:45 a.m.
     I just wanted to sayTar 3/28/05 10:48 p.m.
           Re: I just wanted to sayzach 3/28/05 10:49 p.m.
                 Re: I just wanted to sayNightmare 3/28/05 10:56 p.m.
     CommentsSocrates 3/28/05 10:49 p.m.
           Re: CommentsIcedPitchBlack 3/28/05 11:35 p.m.
                 Re: CommentsSocrates 3/29/05 12:43 a.m.
     Clap Clap ClapEnergy Snake 3/28/05 10:50 p.m.
           I miss opening nightThe_Least_Fav 3/28/05 11:01 p.m.
     BravoTitanian96 (XBL: Hardrive 116) 3/28/05 10:59 p.m.
     I'm with you...HBO, FORM UP ON HIM! *NM* *NM*Jamirus99 3/28/05 11:02 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplemastaodasta 3/28/05 11:03 p.m.
     What did this have to do with cheating?Indorious 3/28/05 11:06 p.m.
           Re: What did this have to do with cheating?Claptrap 3/28/05 11:27 p.m.
           Re: What did this have to do with cheating?IcedPitchBlack 3/28/05 11:36 p.m.
     Bravo *NM*K_wizard 3/28/05 11:07 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleUncleBadTouch23 3/28/05 11:09 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleMarkcall69 3/28/05 11:10 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleFast400 3/28/05 11:20 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleUjio 3/28/05 11:20 p.m.
     A true FPS gamerDragonsbane 3/28/05 11:21 p.m.
           Re: A true FPS gamerAlmar 3/28/05 11:43 p.m.
     OOH RAH! *nm* *NM*Owen 3/28/05 11:37 p.m.
     Awesome! Just how i feel *NM* *NM*Freekill 3/28/05 11:39 p.m.
     couldn't agree more *NM* *NM*rolly poly 3/28/05 11:55 p.m.
     Thoughts on Leveling Up and Karma WhoringDr. Nick 3/28/05 11:58 p.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Leveling Up and Karma WhoringTumnus123 3/29/05 12:57 a.m.
                 Re: Thoughts on Leveling Up and Karma WhoringDr. Nick 3/29/05 2:22 a.m.
                 Re: Thoughts on Leveling Up and Karma WhoringAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/29/05 10:02 a.m.
           Re: Thoughts on Leveling Up and Karma WhoringOdyon 3/29/05 12:16 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplehowie 3/29/05 12:09 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeoplePsychoRaven 3/29/05 12:21 a.m.
     quiteelmatto 3/29/05 12:33 a.m.
     :)Michael M. 3/29/05 12:39 a.m.
     Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...nof 3/29/05 12:45 a.m.
           Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...GP-02 3/29/05 12:55 a.m.
           Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...Michael M. 3/29/05 1:53 a.m.
                 Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...gutupio 3/29/05 2:02 a.m.
                       Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...nof 3/29/05 2:06 a.m.
                             Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...Michael M. 3/29/05 2:10 a.m.
                             I tell you what ...serpx 3/29/05 2:17 a.m.
                                   Re: I tell you what ...Michael M. 3/29/05 2:24 a.m.
           Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...IcedPitchBlack 3/29/05 2:16 a.m.
                 Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...Calvin Chaos 3/29/05 11:54 a.m.
           Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...Sep7imus [subnova] 3/29/05 8:19 a.m.
           Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...Hawaiian Pig 3/29/05 5:38 p.m.
           Re: Uh, sorry, your attitude is wrong...MrGotBeans 3/30/05 5:44 p.m.
           Here's an idea for improvement...B-Sharp 3/30/05 7:53 p.m.
                 Re: Here's an idea for improvement...Miguel Chavez 3/30/05 10:48 p.m.
                       Eh, can't really agree with this...B-Sharp 3/31/05 7:59 p.m.
                 Re: Here's an idea for improvement...58 3/31/05 6:20 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleAlexis 3/29/05 12:58 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleStrange Knight 3/29/05 12:59 a.m.
     What Bungie should do.serpx 3/29/05 1:11 a.m.
           Re: What Bungie should do.B-Sharp 3/30/05 8:10 p.m.
     wow... truely spoken...midnitecarousel 3/29/05 1:16 a.m.
     Bravo. what's your GT? I wanna add you.madaemanon 3/29/05 1:32 a.m.
           Re: Bravo. what's your GT? I wanna add you.Soapy5 3/29/05 1:54 a.m.
                 Great to see you agree!serpx 3/29/05 1:58 a.m.
                       Re: Great to see you agree!Dr. Nick 3/29/05 2:26 a.m.
                             Wow, just wow. *NM*serpx 3/29/05 3:19 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplesigh 3/29/05 2:18 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIcedPitchBlack 3/29/05 2:19 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 3/29/05 9:30 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIcedPitchBlack 3/29/05 2:18 a.m.
     Ditto. *NM* *NM*Foginator 3/29/05 2:40 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplehinch 3/29/05 3:16 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplestahlsoldat 3/29/05 3:22 a.m.
                 Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplehinch 3/29/05 7:40 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplestahlsoldat 3/29/05 3:46 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopledj s 3/29/05 3:37 a.m.
     That's exactly why custom games own! *NM*Zig-Zag 3/29/05 3:38 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleRapter Payne 3/29/05 4:10 a.m.
     Sounds Familiar...Traize 3/29/05 4:18 a.m.
     AMENrio258k 3/29/05 6:02 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplenamaste 3/29/05 6:13 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplefinal ninja 3/29/05 6:31 a.m.
     *applause*CYBRFRK 3/29/05 7:08 a.m.
     That is freakin' awesome!Trenchdigger 3/29/05 7:54 a.m.
     Good JobFlapjack 3/29/05 7:55 a.m.
     Re: Hi.Sep7imus [subnova] 3/29/05 8:00 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleR2 3/29/05 8:16 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleMike C. 3/29/05 8:29 a.m.
     That's why I only play training games now. *nm*SonGoharotto 3/29/05 8:34 a.m.
     Thank YouIcedPitchBlack 3/29/05 8:45 a.m.
     Ouch.Eisen Feuer 3/29/05 8:59 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleLoGaNaDoN 3/29/05 9:03 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleLoGaNaDoN 3/29/05 9:17 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleRed_Breast 3/29/05 9:03 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleUKR GRAND 3/29/05 9:26 a.m.
           You tell it like it is *NM*Endbringer 3/29/05 9:43 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleJedi Jon 314 3/29/05 9:36 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIlkejav mk5 3/29/05 9:43 a.m.
     Amen Reverend!!! Amen. *NM*Pr0w3ss 3/29/05 9:53 a.m.
     Ctrlaltdel-online put it best with:GryphonOsiris 3/29/05 10:21 a.m.
     Hey man...Vulcan Phoenix 3/29/05 10:32 a.m.
           Re: Hey man...Apocalidiot 3/29/05 11:16 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleGrey Fox 3/29/05 11:36 a.m.
     You're so good?RD 3/29/05 11:41 a.m.
     My Whole Take On ThisBenjamin Jacobs 3/29/05 12:28 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleTh3Tru7h 3/29/05 12:36 p.m.
     AmenPJ Hammer 3/29/05 12:40 p.m.
           Something I've noticed...C3RTA 3/29/05 12:46 p.m.
                 Re: Something I've noticed...mercury 3/29/05 2:38 p.m.
     KILLTACULAR!Benjamin Jacobs 3/29/05 12:49 p.m.
           Re: KILLTACULAR!Helio-113 3/29/05 12:57 p.m.
                 Re: KILLTACULAR!Cr4nf0rd 3/30/05 8:45 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleHelio-113 3/29/05 1:15 p.m.
     Truer words have never been spokenSay Goodbye 117 3/29/05 1:23 p.m.
     Whoa...TablesandChairs4 3/29/05 1:28 p.m.
     About time, someone need to say thatZac collins 3/29/05 2:10 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplethefluffy1 3/29/05 2:22 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleJacob 085 3/29/05 2:26 p.m.
     All I have to say is...WORD!DantesVenom 3/29/05 2:27 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleRibs 3/29/05 2:44 p.m.
           *salute* *NM*Virus_232 3/29/05 2:53 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleNOmeansYes 3/29/05 3:11 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopleelmicker 3/29/05 3:24 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleFarsight 3/29/05 4:02 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleFouch 3/29/05 4:15 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleTreymond 3/29/05 4:13 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleRed 3/29/05 4:13 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIcedPitchBlack 3/29/05 4:59 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleUNEXPECTED62 3/29/05 4:17 p.m.
     BeautifulNick (Penguino13 is my gamertag) 3/29/05 4:41 p.m.
     Re: throw my hat inGlovguy 3/29/05 4:45 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleJamesD 3/29/05 4:47 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleAngrist 3/29/05 4:52 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleLanik 3/29/05 5:00 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSparkypinball 3/29/05 6:07 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleOokluh 3/29/05 5:21 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleTaiga 3/29/05 5:53 p.m.
     I tip my hat to you sir *NM*Boxer [Subnova] 3/29/05 6:21 p.m.
     Amen, brother. *NM*Kermit 3/29/05 6:27 p.m.
     A Fix for cheating?DarkSky Forever 3/29/05 6:55 p.m.
     The good ol' daysLt. DanMan 3/29/05 7:30 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeoplePsychoticNinja5 (<--- xbl gamertag) 3/29/05 7:31 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleMrguy 3/29/05 8:01 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleGladius Dei 3/29/05 8:06 p.m.
     *thanks man, you said it* NM *NM*SwiftJustice25 3/29/05 9:03 p.m.
     B e a uuutifuluberblue 3/29/05 9:04 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleimnumberQ 3/29/05 9:05 p.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleMrguy 3/29/05 11:34 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleoBlade. 3/29/05 9:52 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleStev 3/29/05 11:33 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIzzinatah 3/30/05 12:04 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIf The Shoe Fits 3/30/05 2:27 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSep7imus [subnova] 3/30/05 4:48 a.m.
     Online Gaming Environments...WRATHofGOD 3/30/05 8:44 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplecharles 3/30/05 9:40 a.m.
     Shut Upsmartboybynd 3/30/05 10:46 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleCaptain Milk 3/30/05 11:54 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopleu2ez 3/30/05 12:14 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleAJ 3/30/05 12:57 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleMiNiTeK14 3/30/05 6:06 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peoplerodolfo 3/30/05 6:34 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleRbLcK 3/30/05 7:48 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over Peopledesecrator 3/31/05 1:05 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleIzuna-Otoshi (New fellow) 3/31/05 2:13 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleArashi90 3/31/05 3:31 a.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleWeapon X1 3/31/05 8:56 a.m.
           Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleSpeedy 3/31/05 12:50 p.m.
     Re: The Honeymoon's Over PeopleZether 3/31/05 2:21 p.m.
     back off and let him speak him mind!Noedalmxy 3/31/05 2:55 p.m.
     THANKYOU OHHH THANKYOU FOR SAYING THATinfinity198 3/31/05 9:32 p.m.
     So, If I'm proud of my achievements, I'm stupid?A Guy Who Cares 4/10/05 1:38 p.m.
           Re: So, If I'm proud of my achievements, I'm stupiCount Zero 4/10/05 1:58 p.m.
                 AlsoDarkSim 4/10/05 3:08 p.m.
           Re: So, If I'm proud of my achievements, I'm stupiGil Galahad 4/11/05 8:30 a.m.
     Amen to that.343winks. 4/10/05 2:48 p.m.



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