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A few deep breaths *SP*
Posted By: rageresetDate: 11/30/04 1:19 a.m.

I will attempt to reconcile my position on the (now locked) post I made earlier, as it seems that I'm being considered boorish and ignorant because I didnt make the post quietly and elegantly enough. I don't wish to (re)open a can of worms but I would like a chance to respond to everyone who decried my position based on the fact that it was strongly-worded.

I wrote that post first thing in the morning while I ate my breakfast - I came over to the computer and what do I see but Randy Glass (of all people) panning Halo 2. It was the straw that broke the camel's back and I snapped.

Here's what I think.
The game has: better graphics, better audio, a better musical score, a deeper story, more vehicles, more weapons, new races, female marines, improved AI, online support, vehicle boarding, more difficult Legendary, bigger levels, no repeated architecture/levels, more variety in the gameplay due to playing as the Elite, destructible vehicles and more. And the thing is, nobody is even arguing about that. The game has technically been improved in every way. So logic begs the question What Were You Expecting? So far I have not read a single valid answer to this question. Like Randy, most people's criticism has amounted to simply saying 'I dont like this' or 'this isnt good enough' and that is what I have a problem with.

Personally, I don't like the energy sword. I think multiplayer games on Lockout become a race for it. I don't like the Ascension map one bit. However, I realise that other people do like those things. Not every aspect of the game is tailored to me, so I don't mark the game down because things arent to my taste. In terms of saying something constructive, I noticed that the weapon sound effects seem a little puny (especially the plasma rifle and pistols) when really, they could sound like anything at all since they're alien technology. Perhaps applying some effects to make them sound more beefy, more destructive might be worth a go. That said, the receiving end of the plasma rifle is spot-on; hiding behind a crate in Pelican Bay One on Legendary while the Elites pound the bejeesus out of the front of it sounds like the end of the world if you have the 5.1 cranked up high enough..

As for the ending, it was abrupt, but I just figured that was because there was so much of it to tell they simply ran out of time. Surely nobody could say with a straight face that the campaign isnt long enough. I have a vastly greater interest in the tale now. The story is much more palpable, some questions have been answered (as opposed to Halo 1 where basically nothing was, such was the nature of that chapter of the story) but a lot more remain to be. Furthermore, its possible to make some educated guesses about where the story is headed.. or maybe I just think it is.

In summary, I'm not crying because the game got some average reviews (as some halfwit seemed to think) and I'm not attacking Randy Glass either. I'm saying that complaining aimlessly about facets of the game that arent to your taste holds little weight and acheives nothing unless you offer an alternative. Everyone seems to agree that every technical aspect of the game has been improved, so it can't but grind when people say it doesn't live up to their expectations, whilst conveniently neglecting to tell anyone what those expectations actually were.

Oh, and to the few of you who picked up on the last part of the last sentence of my post and replied solely to that, give yourselves a round of applause.
Nobody else is going to.

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A few deep breaths *SP*ragereset 11/30/04 1:19 a.m.
     True, true *NM* *NM*7h3_h0ck3y_w1z 11/30/04 2:10 a.m.
     Re: more post-game carnage reportR.G. 11/30/04 5:44 a.m.
           Re: more post-game carnage ^^^ *SP* above! ^^^ *NM*R.G. 11/30/04 5:50 a.m.
           Re: more post-game carnage reportragereset 12/1/04 6:13 a.m.
                 Re: more post-game carnage reportMr Sniggles 12/1/04 5:39 p.m.
                       Re: more post-game carnage reportBlitzwolf 12/1/04 8:19 p.m.
           *chink* *NM*rolando 12/1/04 12:04 p.m.
           Re: more post-game carnage reportViscily II 12/1/04 3:41 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Kermit 11/30/04 6:48 a.m.
     I Only Have a Couple Sentences to Say About This..Mintz08 11/30/04 7:31 a.m.
           Ditto, both. :) *NM*Blitzwolf 12/1/04 8:03 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Ross Mills [subnova] 11/30/04 8:43 a.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Louis Wu 11/30/04 10:57 a.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*ragereset 11/30/04 12:59 p.m.
                 Agreed.MikeMan445 11/30/04 6:19 p.m.
                       Re: Agreed.box 12/1/04 11:58 a.m.
                             BULLSEYE!Siva Wr'k 12/1/04 1:41 p.m.
                                   Re: BULLSEYE!Siva Wr'k 12/1/04 1:44 p.m.
                                         Re: BULLSEYE!Qonas 12/1/04 10:41 p.m.
                                               Couldn't have said it better myself *NM* *NM*box 12/2/04 10:21 a.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Wado SG 11/30/04 4:38 p.m.
                 Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to digest *NM*Siva Wr'k 12/1/04 1:47 p.m.
                       Re: Yes, agreed. Too much story in one game to digQonas 12/2/04 4:41 p.m.
           Hmm... *SP*Saint [lpn] 11/30/04 8:05 p.m.
                 EVERYTHING and BETTERSuddenDark.com 12/1/04 11:45 a.m.
                       Re: EVERYTHING and BETTEREl Bastard 12/1/04 11:50 a.m.
                             Re: EVERYTHING and BETTERSuddenDark.com 12/1/04 1:08 p.m.
                                   Re: EVERYTHING and BETTERmercury 12/1/04 4:34 p.m.
                       YES, YES, YES!Blitzwolf 12/1/04 10:08 p.m.
           Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP*ThorsHammer 11/30/04 10:41 p.m.
                 Re: Why I think that happened *pseudo-review* *SP*Sep7imus [subnova] 12/1/04 9:47 a.m.
                       Only on Xboxragereset 12/1/04 1:03 p.m.
                 What I felt was missing:ChiperSoft 12/1/04 12:46 p.m.
                 Extension on that...axman 12/1/04 1:07 p.m.
                       Bingo. *NM*Siva Wr'k 12/1/04 1:52 p.m.
                       Re: Extension on that...box 12/1/04 8:04 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*FriendlyFire 12/1/04 8:35 a.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Capain Spark 12/1/04 10:50 a.m.
                 Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Capo Rip 12/1/04 6:44 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*TD MasterChief 12/1/04 11:09 a.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*El Bastard 12/1/04 11:18 a.m.
           the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...?Zaknafein 12/1/04 2:05 p.m.
                 Re: the 'seek not to conquer.." factor...?Sep7imus [subnova] 12/1/04 2:59 p.m.
                       My sentiments exactly. Well said. =D *NM*Zaknafein 12/1/04 3:42 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Stuart 12/1/04 2:25 p.m.
           Remember where in the game you enjoyed it the mostMthdDirector 12/1/04 2:26 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Viscily II 12/1/04 4:15 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*'Nosolee 12/1/04 5:33 p.m.
           I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP*Blitzwolf 12/1/04 8:43 p.m.
                 Re: I think, I've figured out what's missing. *SP*igniter 12/1/04 11:17 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Ducain 12/1/04 10:13 p.m.
                 Re: Analog plasma pistolragereset 12/1/04 11:09 p.m.
                 Re: A few deep breaths *SP*ThorsHammer 12/1/04 11:15 p.m.
                       Re: A few deep breaths *SP* True!Ducain 12/2/04 3:51 p.m.
           I just can't help but point out....Konrad 12/2/04 8:27 p.m.
                 Burn. *NM*Zero Flaw (E Nomini Patri) 12/2/04 8:35 p.m.
                 bad second quotegspawn 12/2/04 8:39 p.m.
     Re: Of Repetition *SP*Sep7imus [subnova] 11/30/04 5:06 p.m.
     my two cents. *sp*B-Sharp 11/30/04 6:34 p.m.
           Two more centsragereset 11/30/04 11:14 p.m.
                 Re: Two more cents to your two more centspaladin2007 12/1/04 11:24 a.m.
                 Re: Two more centschaosknight514 12/1/04 4:36 p.m.
                 Something else to think about...B-Sharp 12/1/04 4:59 p.m.
           My Opinionjac170sd 12/1/04 4:48 p.m.
                 Re: My OpinionB-Sharp 12/1/04 5:46 p.m.
     I have a few legitimate critiquesNoir 12/1/04 10:25 a.m.
           Another $0.02Smitty 12/1/04 2:41 p.m.
     keep taking those deep breathsMasterGrunt_Yayap-117 12/1/04 10:50 a.m.
           Re: keep taking those deep breathsbungiefan 12/1/04 11:35 a.m.
     Deep breaths - vitriol free.Dazza 12/1/04 11:30 a.m.
           Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.Sep7imus [subnova] 12/1/04 11:41 a.m.
                 Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.Dazza 12/1/04 11:46 a.m.
                       Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.Sep7imus [subnova] 12/1/04 11:49 a.m.
                             Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.Dazza 12/1/04 11:51 a.m.
                 Re: Deep breaths - vitriol free.Capain Spark 12/1/04 11:55 a.m.
           What do/did we want from Halo 2.. and forH3 *long*3Suns 12/2/04 9:15 p.m.
     Noteable "community" figuresWRATHofGOD 12/1/04 1:10 p.m.
           Hrm...El Bastard 12/1/04 1:54 p.m.
                 Re: Hrm...GhaleonEB 12/1/04 2:44 p.m.
                       Re: Hrm...WRATHofGOD 12/1/04 3:49 p.m.
           Re: Noteable "community" figs & rampant fanboismR.G. 12/1/04 4:30 p.m.
           Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :)Louis Wu 12/1/04 7:27 p.m.
                 Re: Sounds like someone has a bone to pick. :)WRATHofGOD 12/2/04 7:57 a.m.
           Re: Noteable "community" figuresCapo Rip 12/2/04 1:39 a.m.
     A great but imperfect gameFoolsRun 12/1/04 2:53 p.m.
           Said perfectly! Minor gripes from me below! *NM*Jamirus99 12/1/04 3:28 p.m.
           Re: A great but imperfect gamebungiefan 12/1/04 3:30 p.m.
                 The sum of its parts are greater than the wholeFoolsRun 12/1/04 5:34 p.m.
           Great post! True, this will make Halo 3 better. *NM*Siva Wr'k 12/1/04 4:08 p.m.
           Re: A great but imperfect gameInky 12/1/04 9:57 p.m.
           Excellent Review. thanks for posting it. *NM*R.G. 12/2/04 12:51 a.m.
           A Final Note to BungieVadcol 12/2/04 12:53 a.m.
     My thoughts on Halo 2 (To boot) *SP*Jamirus99 12/1/04 3:23 p.m.
     Better the second time aroundKilgoreTrout XL 12/1/04 3:25 p.m.
     Absolutely Brilliant. I Totally Agree... *NM*Bluestone 12/1/04 3:42 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Capo Rip 12/1/04 4:07 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Arc 12/1/04 5:10 p.m.
                 So true...Capo Rip 12/1/04 6:18 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Seraph 12/1/04 5:09 p.m.
           Re: A few deep breaths *SP*MthdDirector 12/1/04 7:10 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Hieros 12/1/04 5:58 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*comicbookguy 12/1/04 6:19 p.m.
     in regard to MP *img*retsamolah 12/1/04 6:49 p.m.
           Not All the Way, Spray and Pray:Jamirus99 12/1/04 7:43 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Knight Premier 12/1/04 6:53 p.m.
           it's smarter than mespaartan117 12/1/04 7:43 p.m.
     Randy Glass and Halo 2 hatersBey Bey Bey 12/1/04 7:48 p.m.
           Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 hatersSep7imus [subnova] 12/1/04 8:16 p.m.
           Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 hatersR.G. 12/1/04 11:13 p.m.
                 OK, I'm done, gotta call it a niteMiguel Chavez 12/2/04 1:16 a.m.
                       Ditto,...Ross Mills [subnova] 12/2/04 8:12 a.m.
                 Auteur! Auteur! Magnifique! *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 12/2/04 7:53 a.m.
                 Re: Bravo! *NM*Sep7imus [subnova] 12/2/04 9:01 a.m.
                 Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 hatersQonas 12/2/04 4:43 p.m.
                       Re: Randy Glass and Halo 2 hatersMothergoat 12/3/04 8:47 a.m.
           what everyone should do is...fludblud 12/2/04 7:08 a.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Dundre 12/1/04 8:44 p.m.
     All I want for christmasTrevor Austin 12/1/04 9:47 p.m.
     I think that we're out of focus here.*THASF* A.K.A. The Halo and Sonic Fan 12/1/04 10:17 p.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Traize 12/2/04 7:49 a.m.
     Re: A few deep breaths *SP*Chaka 12/2/04 7:03 p.m.



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