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Pitchford on HaloPC's Performance
Posted By: ;*@PTUR3	Date: 9/28/03 9:59 a.m.
Halo PC is fast for what it's doing. And it's doing a lot. Halo for Xbox wanted to be locked at 30fps running at an interlaced 640x480, but often dropped frames during the tricky scenes. On the PC, you guys tend to want to run in resolutions that are drawing 1,000 times more pixels than what your Xbox and your TV could do. I want this too - it's how I'm playing the game now. If you're doing this with video hardware that is roughly comparable to an Xbox and you're turning on graphics settings that the Xbox didn't offer, you're guaranteed better performance than what the Xbox could do (the game is much more optimal now) but frankly you'd be a bit foolish to expect triple digits of FPS under those conditions. The video hardware of the Xbox is roughly equivalent to a pixel shader 1.4 card, but it has several custom things about it that make it quite a bit faster than even the most recent video cards with the applications that are designed for it (such as Halo). Halo for PC is more optimal - it's faster code as it's had more time to be optimized and it had direct attention from programmers at Bungie, Gearbox, Microsoft, the leading hardware manufacturers, and the DirectX team. Halo for PC has four graphics pipelines and loads of graphics options in the menus and command lines. You can trade performance for graphics as much as you like. I personally recommend getting as many graphics features as you can while keeping the game locked at no worse than 30 FPS. I'm able to do this fairly easily even with my home machine - a GeForce 4ti with a P4 1.6ghz and 512mb of RAM. I don't know what you guys are doing... The coders included the -timedemo feature to help you tune your performance and compare cards against one another. The feature is honest and rigorous (the -timedemos are running the most intesive pixel shaded scenes in the game - scenes that were designed to be non-interactive where performance isn't as crucial). We hope that this feature is used not as a measure of average performance during game play (because it is not), but as a metric for doing benchmark comparisons from one system to the next. In any case, you'll find that on high end cards with users who fiddle with options like AA and AF the game tends to be fill rate bound. That's natural for a PS 2.0 game and setting a new benchmark for performance is the price Halo has to pay to be the first FPS that's really pushing your card by asking it to use the pixel shaders that it wants to support. I expect reasonably comparable performance from some of the other upcoming PS 2.0 games (although these games may make different trade offs with scalability or other factors like physics and animation complexity, geometry complexity, pixel shader complexity and other things like AI that may affect the CPU). The bottom line, though, is that Halo is fun and the code is fast at what it does (it's doing a LOT). Is was that way when we got it and some of the smartest programmers available from hardware manufactuers, the DirectX team, Microsoft, Bungie and Gearbox worked very hard and very long to make it do more things even faster than before. If you're less interested in the quality of the game than you are in seeing a high FPS number, there are plenty of games using DirectX 7 graphics engines that will likely satisfy you. In the mean time, I'm playing Halo on-line and I'm loving it. At the end of the day, I finally get to play Bungie's masterpiece on my PC, in high resolution, with a mouse and keyboard and play multiplayer over the internet. The experience is better than I anticipated it would be when the guys got started and I think that every bit of their effort has been worth it. It's the game I want to play and the game I will be playing for many, many months. If you guys want to copy my sentiments here on any other boards where this kind of discussion comes up, feel free. I'm proud of the hard work the engineers have done and I'm thankful I get to play this incredible game Bungie made as I've long wanted to play it. -Randy Pitchford from: http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Halo&Number=20595&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all

Message Index

Pitchford on HaloPC's Performance	;*@PTUR3	9/28/03 9:59 a.m.
Re: Pitchford on HaloPC's Performance	Louis Wu	9/28/03 10:43 a.m.
Followup...	Louis Wu	9/28/03 10:49 a.m.
Re: Followup...	hehbo2k3	9/28/03 10:56 a.m.
Re: Followup...	RyanJM	9/28/03 11:25 a.m.
Re: Followup...	hehbo2k3	9/28/03 11:36 a.m.
Re: Followup...	Louis Wu	9/28/03 11:31 a.m.
You punk...	Shishka	9/28/03 12:17 p.m.
Re: You punk...	Louis Wu	9/28/03 12:54 p.m.
Re: Now I'm not very savvy with all this technical	Infininja	9/28/03 2:23 p.m.
Re: Now I'm not very savvy with all this technical	Count Zero	9/28/03 2:47 p.m.
Re: Now I'm not very savvy with all this technical	Infininja	9/28/03 3:01 p.m.
*Long* technical crap	dogchow33	9/28/03 4:10 p.m.