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Checks HBO. Walks back out revolving door.
By:Leviathan
Date: 10/7/15 2:19 pm
In Response To: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchise (Grizzlei)

The gossip and the speculative vitriol (especially from some of the same few people), not to mention this seemingly-accepted 'canon' of what were good and bad entries in the Halo universe (ex: I loved the graphic novel but see it continually referenced as a failure as a-matter-of-fact, I prefer Bungie's depiction of Master Chief rather than Nylund's, etc.) wears me out.

I mean 343i literally DID cancel a project I was working on, and, while I didn't enjoy the experience of course, I STILL don't think they were "complete dicks" or that evil management was to blame! There are always two, if not more, sides to these kinds of stories.

From my point of view, the Bungie team was putting Halo CE together inside of a year for Microsoft (I've heard the majority of CE was built in the last 8 months before release), and trying to build their own world and perfect its story. At the same time, a tie-in novel was being written trying to do the same thing - that sounds like hell on both sides! To me, the fact that we got two amazingly entertaining results is something to be cherished. Trautmann also went on to write the entaining Art of Halo in 2004.

Instead I see strained experiences kicked around to fit the views of a few disgruntled fans whose narratives have continually turned me away from BO forums. You see this kind of stuff all over the internet these days. Somebody says harsh words, sometimes even just an innocent critique, and the studio they designed for or the director of the movie they were in is tarred and feathered in articles and comments and forums. That crap sticks in my brain and I don't want any part of those attitudes. It does me no good to get fill my mind with angry thoughts on a situation I wasn't even a part of and can't really know anything about for sure.

I just don't have the interest anymore in sifting through stuff like this to find where the enthusiastic and inviting/welcoming discussion has gone. And it's not how I want to remember my great times with Halo and the HBO community. :(

*Takes a long, wistful look around; hurriedly stuffs ashtray in pocket on the way out.*


Messages In This Thread

Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/2/15 9:15 pm
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisezofinda10/2/15 9:27 pm
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMetalingus62710/2/15 10:04 pm
     Listen to the Podcast Eric Suggestsmacgyver1010/2/15 10:15 pm
           Re: This cave is not...what I was toldmelee10/3/15 9:19 am
           Re: Listen to the Podcast Eric SuggestsTuckerscreator10/5/15 3:32 pm
                 Re: Listen to the Podcast Eric SuggestsArchilen10/6/15 5:53 am
     Bungie being complete dicks...scarab10/3/15 3:52 am
           Indeed.car1510/3/15 3:55 pm
           Wow.Quirel10/4/15 1:01 am
                 Re: Wow.car1510/4/15 2:09 am
                 Re: Wow.scarab10/4/15 9:54 am
                       Re: Wow.Quirel10/6/15 2:25 pm
                 Re: Wow.Masterz133710/4/15 11:19 am
                       Re: Wow.Quirel10/6/15 2:10 pm
                 Re: Wow.Cody Miller10/5/15 12:48 pm
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/4/15 1:53 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/4/15 1:55 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseThe BS Police10/4/15 2:54 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchisecheapLEY10/4/15 3:10 pm
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisecar1510/4/15 5:58 pm
                             Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchisecheapLEY10/4/15 6:20 pm
                                   Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisecar1510/4/15 8:50 pm
                                         Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisezofinda10/4/15 9:11 pm
                                         100% Agreedmacgyver1010/4/15 9:21 pm
                                         YepGrizzlei10/4/15 9:45 pm
                                   Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseCody Miller10/5/15 1:01 pm
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseCody Miller10/5/15 12:58 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseCody Miller10/5/15 12:55 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 2:52 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseQuirel10/6/15 2:09 pm
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisedavidfuchs10/6/15 3:01 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/4/15 3:30 pm
                 I like and agree with this too! *NM*macgyver1010/4/15 9:22 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMorhek10/5/15 2:11 am
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 3:25 am
                             Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMorhek10/5/15 5:13 am
                                   Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 5:46 am
                                         Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseFree Weights10/5/15 2:17 pm
                                               Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 4:17 pm
                                                     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 4:24 pm
                                                           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 4:43 pm
                                                                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 4:48 pm
                                                     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMacGyver1010/5/15 4:30 pm
                                                           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 5:10 pm
                                                     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseFree Weights10/6/15 4:02 pm
                             Isn't that the point?scarab10/5/15 12:26 pm
                                   Re: Isn't that the point?iamaquestionmark10/5/15 1:10 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?kidtsunami10/5/15 1:37 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?iamaquestionmark10/5/15 3:06 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?General Vagueness10/5/15 4:10 pm
                                                     Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/5/15 4:20 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/5/15 4:12 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?Morhek10/5/15 7:16 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?General Vagueness10/5/15 10:57 pm
                                   Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/5/15 4:07 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?scarab10/6/15 3:49 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 4:12 pm
                                                     Re: Isn't that the point?scarab10/6/15 4:50 pm
                                                           Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 5:03 pm
                                                                 Re: Isn't that the point?zofinda10/6/15 8:14 pm
                                                                       Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 8:24 pm
                                                                             Re: Isn't that the point?zofinda10/6/15 8:30 pm
                                                                                   Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 8:35 pm
                                                                                         Re: Isn't that the point?zofinda10/6/15 8:40 pm
                                                                 Did you read the books after the game?scarab10/7/15 3:26 pm
                                                                       Re: Did you read the books after the game?Grizzlei10/7/15 3:34 pm
                                                                             I prefer to get that from the other characters.scarab10/7/15 4:13 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?Quirel10/6/15 5:15 pm
                             Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 3:46 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 3:36 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseTuckerscreator10/5/15 3:46 pm
           I was surprised when I found out my backstoryscarab10/5/15 7:24 am
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseArchilen10/5/15 7:45 am
           Yeh, it doesn't seem to be one u can pin on Bungie *NM*scarab10/5/15 12:16 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseTuckerscreator10/5/15 3:27 pm
     Checks HBO. Walks back out revolving door.Leviathan10/7/15 2:19 pm
           So you dropped in in to tell us we suck?scarab10/7/15 2:28 pm
                 That was not my intent.Leviathan10/7/15 2:40 pm
                       Re: That was not my intent.Leviathan10/7/15 2:44 pm
                       Bullshit Levi - nothing needed twistingscarab10/7/15 2:44 pm
                             Re: Bullshit Levi - nothing needed twistingQuirel10/7/15 2:50 pm
                                   you didn't read his post as passive agressive?scarab10/7/15 3:06 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?Grizzlei10/7/15 3:21 pm
                                               amen to that *NM*kidtsunami10/7/15 3:33 pm
                                               Let's fix this...ChrisTheeCrappy10/7/15 3:37 pm
                                                     Re: Let's fix this...Grizzlei10/7/15 3:51 pm
                                                           Re: Let's fix this...ChrisTheeCrappy10/7/15 3:56 pm
                                               Prior to his post where was the angst between us? *NM*scarab10/7/15 3:49 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?uberfoop10/7/15 3:22 pm
                                               I thought levi was vilifying usscarab10/7/15 4:00 pm
                                                     Re: I thought levi was vilifying usLeviathan10/7/15 4:37 pm
                                                     Re: I thought levi was vilifying usGeneral Vagueness10/7/15 6:45 pm
                                                           Yeh, I know, I bitscarab10/8/15 2:52 pm
                                                                 Re: Yeh, I know, I bitGeneral Vagueness10/8/15 4:41 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?General Vagueness10/7/15 3:30 pm
                                         The Shadow of my Intent.Leviathan10/7/15 3:54 pm
                                               Re: The Shadow of my Intent.General Vagueness10/7/15 6:37 pm
                                                     Re: The Shadow of my Intent.Leviathan10/7/15 7:42 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?Quirel10/7/15 3:54 pm
                                               Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?Leviathan10/7/15 4:07 pm
                                               Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?thebruce010/8/15 9:44 am
                             Seriously?cheapLEY10/7/15 10:46 pm
           +1 *NM*Arithmomaniac10/7/15 2:57 pm
           +2 *NM*munky-05810/7/15 4:21 pm
           Why not focus on the positive discussions?The BS Police10/7/15 4:32 pm
                 Sometimes, bad behavior needs to be called outkidtsunami10/7/15 5:19 pm
           Switches out revolving door for welcome matMacGyver1010/7/15 4:51 pm
                 Appreciation and Apologies.*long-ass post*Leviathan10/7/15 8:02 pm
                       Re: Appreciation and Apologies.*long-ass post*macgyver1010/7/15 10:45 pm
                       Well, safe travels and such....robofin11710/7/15 11:05 pm
                       Hope it's not a permanent good-byekidtsunami10/8/15 9:56 am
                             Re: Levi...zofinda10/8/15 10:17 pm
                                   hehe, would be fun to have an HBO Hall Of Fame *NM*kidtsunami10/9/15 8:10 am
                       I agree Levi, Screw that Scarab douche!munky-05810/10/15 2:43 pm
                             Re: I agree Levi, Screw that Scarab douche!General Vagueness10/10/15 8:09 pm
                                   Once more, with feeling...Leviathan10/11/15 1:28 pm
                                         Re: Once more, with feeling...General Vagueness10/12/15 1:07 pm
                                               HBO HaikuAfroRyan10/12/15 1:57 pm
                                               Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)Leviathan10/12/15 5:17 pm
                                                     Re: Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)General Vagueness10/12/15 6:56 pm
                                                     Re: Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)uberfoop10/12/15 7:06 pm
                                                           Re: Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)Leviathan10/12/15 7:25 pm
                                                                 Yes, they are beautifulscarab10/13/15 1:13 pm
                                                                       Re: Yes, they are beautifulLeviathan10/13/15 1:51 pm
                                                     Hey Levi, I think this might help.robofin11710/13/15 2:14 am
                                                           Re: Hey Levi, I think this might help.Leviathan10/13/15 2:50 am
           FORGEpete_the_duck10/7/15 7:42 pm
                 ..and lack of an edit button *NM*pete_the_duck10/7/15 7:44 pm
                       I like the lack of an edit button *NM*macgyver1010/7/15 10:49 pm
                 Re: FORGELeviathan10/7/15 7:45 pm
           hey who took my ashtray? *NM*Bounce-A-Gon10/7/15 8:21 pm

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