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Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchise
By:Free Weights
Date: 10/6/15 4:02 pm
In Response To: Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchise (General Vagueness)

I found myself much more emotionally engaged in halo 4 than any before it. I found myself wanting to play the " action packed" playlist in odst because the characters are much more interesting. I think reach did the best job of creating a blank slate but I was not invested in that character when he died, just sad that it ended the way I thought it would and the moment had gravity because they killed off almost every other main character in the game leading up to your eventual demise.

To each his own, of course, but I for one hope 343i continues on their current path and invests in helping me relate to the protagonist whose shoes I fill in these games. I think the blank slate silent protagonist isn't necessarily a poor choice in game storytelling, but I am unconvinced it is a better way to tell a story than inhabiting a fleshed out character. bioshock infinite vs the first bioshock's protagonist immediately comes to mind as a valid comparison.

Maybe I don't just want to inhabit these lush, exciting, alien worlds... I also want to be an exciting person on a journey in that world. perhaps it's escapism on my part, but that's a big part of why I've always played games. multi player is fun, but the story keeps me coming back.

: In most media, yes. In a game you have to actively get in the way, because a
: game puts you in their shoes and the structure makes you invested in
: whether they get helped or hurt. When you experience a death in a game and
: you comment on it, do you say "the Chief died" or "Mario
: died" or whatever? I'm willing to bet that, no, you say " I
: died". That's why a blank slate character works better in games than
: anywhere else and can actually help a game be what it's trying to be.
: A blank slate isn't great for telling a determined story, no, but it's not
: inherently a fault when it comes to video games.


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Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/2/15 9:15 pm
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisezofinda10/2/15 9:27 pm
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMetalingus62710/2/15 10:04 pm
     Listen to the Podcast Eric Suggestsmacgyver1010/2/15 10:15 pm
           Re: This cave is not...what I was toldmelee10/3/15 9:19 am
           Re: Listen to the Podcast Eric SuggestsTuckerscreator10/5/15 3:32 pm
                 Re: Listen to the Podcast Eric SuggestsArchilen10/6/15 5:53 am
     Bungie being complete dicks...scarab10/3/15 3:52 am
           Indeed.car1510/3/15 3:55 pm
           Wow.Quirel10/4/15 1:01 am
                 Re: Wow.car1510/4/15 2:09 am
                 Re: Wow.scarab10/4/15 9:54 am
                       Re: Wow.Quirel10/6/15 2:25 pm
                 Re: Wow.Masterz133710/4/15 11:19 am
                       Re: Wow.Quirel10/6/15 2:10 pm
                 Re: Wow.Cody Miller10/5/15 12:48 pm
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/4/15 1:53 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/4/15 1:55 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseThe BS Police10/4/15 2:54 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchisecheapLEY10/4/15 3:10 pm
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisecar1510/4/15 5:58 pm
                             Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchisecheapLEY10/4/15 6:20 pm
                                   Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisecar1510/4/15 8:50 pm
                                         Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisezofinda10/4/15 9:11 pm
                                         100% Agreedmacgyver1010/4/15 9:21 pm
                                         YepGrizzlei10/4/15 9:45 pm
                                   Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseCody Miller10/5/15 1:01 pm
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseCody Miller10/5/15 12:58 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseCody Miller10/5/15 12:55 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 2:52 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseQuirel10/6/15 2:09 pm
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo Franchisedavidfuchs10/6/15 3:01 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/4/15 3:30 pm
                 I like and agree with this too! *NM*macgyver1010/4/15 9:22 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMorhek10/5/15 2:11 am
                       Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 3:25 am
                             Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMorhek10/5/15 5:13 am
                                   Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 5:46 am
                                         Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseFree Weights10/5/15 2:17 pm
                                               Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 4:17 pm
                                                     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 4:24 pm
                                                           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 4:43 pm
                                                                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGrizzlei10/5/15 4:48 pm
                                                     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseMacGyver1010/5/15 4:30 pm
                                                           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 5:10 pm
                                                     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseFree Weights10/6/15 4:02 pm
                             Isn't that the point?scarab10/5/15 12:26 pm
                                   Re: Isn't that the point?iamaquestionmark10/5/15 1:10 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?kidtsunami10/5/15 1:37 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?iamaquestionmark10/5/15 3:06 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?General Vagueness10/5/15 4:10 pm
                                                     Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/5/15 4:20 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/5/15 4:12 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?Morhek10/5/15 7:16 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?General Vagueness10/5/15 10:57 pm
                                   Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/5/15 4:07 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?scarab10/6/15 3:49 pm
                                               Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 4:12 pm
                                                     Re: Isn't that the point?scarab10/6/15 4:50 pm
                                                           Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 5:03 pm
                                                                 Re: Isn't that the point?zofinda10/6/15 8:14 pm
                                                                       Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 8:24 pm
                                                                             Re: Isn't that the point?zofinda10/6/15 8:30 pm
                                                                                   Re: Isn't that the point?Grizzlei10/6/15 8:35 pm
                                                                                         Re: Isn't that the point?zofinda10/6/15 8:40 pm
                                                                 Did you read the books after the game?scarab10/7/15 3:26 pm
                                                                       Re: Did you read the books after the game?Grizzlei10/7/15 3:34 pm
                                                                             I prefer to get that from the other characters.scarab10/7/15 4:13 pm
                                         Re: Isn't that the point?Quirel10/6/15 5:15 pm
                             Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 3:46 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseGeneral Vagueness10/5/15 3:36 pm
                 Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseTuckerscreator10/5/15 3:46 pm
           I was surprised when I found out my backstoryscarab10/5/15 7:24 am
     Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseArchilen10/5/15 7:45 am
           Yeh, it doesn't seem to be one u can pin on Bungie *NM*scarab10/5/15 12:16 pm
           Re: Unsung Hero of the Halo FranchiseTuckerscreator10/5/15 3:27 pm
     Checks HBO. Walks back out revolving door.Leviathan10/7/15 2:19 pm
           So you dropped in in to tell us we suck?scarab10/7/15 2:28 pm
                 That was not my intent.Leviathan10/7/15 2:40 pm
                       Re: That was not my intent.Leviathan10/7/15 2:44 pm
                       Bullshit Levi - nothing needed twistingscarab10/7/15 2:44 pm
                             Re: Bullshit Levi - nothing needed twistingQuirel10/7/15 2:50 pm
                                   you didn't read his post as passive agressive?scarab10/7/15 3:06 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?Grizzlei10/7/15 3:21 pm
                                               amen to that *NM*kidtsunami10/7/15 3:33 pm
                                               Let's fix this...ChrisTheeCrappy10/7/15 3:37 pm
                                                     Re: Let's fix this...Grizzlei10/7/15 3:51 pm
                                                           Re: Let's fix this...ChrisTheeCrappy10/7/15 3:56 pm
                                               Prior to his post where was the angst between us? *NM*scarab10/7/15 3:49 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?uberfoop10/7/15 3:22 pm
                                               I thought levi was vilifying usscarab10/7/15 4:00 pm
                                                     Re: I thought levi was vilifying usLeviathan10/7/15 4:37 pm
                                                     Re: I thought levi was vilifying usGeneral Vagueness10/7/15 6:45 pm
                                                           Yeh, I know, I bitscarab10/8/15 2:52 pm
                                                                 Re: Yeh, I know, I bitGeneral Vagueness10/8/15 4:41 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?General Vagueness10/7/15 3:30 pm
                                         The Shadow of my Intent.Leviathan10/7/15 3:54 pm
                                               Re: The Shadow of my Intent.General Vagueness10/7/15 6:37 pm
                                                     Re: The Shadow of my Intent.Leviathan10/7/15 7:42 pm
                                         Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?Quirel10/7/15 3:54 pm
                                               Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?Leviathan10/7/15 4:07 pm
                                               Re: you didn't read his post as passive agressive?thebruce010/8/15 9:44 am
                             Seriously?cheapLEY10/7/15 10:46 pm
           +1 *NM*Arithmomaniac10/7/15 2:57 pm
           +2 *NM*munky-05810/7/15 4:21 pm
           Why not focus on the positive discussions?The BS Police10/7/15 4:32 pm
                 Sometimes, bad behavior needs to be called outkidtsunami10/7/15 5:19 pm
           Switches out revolving door for welcome matMacGyver1010/7/15 4:51 pm
                 Appreciation and Apologies.*long-ass post*Leviathan10/7/15 8:02 pm
                       Re: Appreciation and Apologies.*long-ass post*macgyver1010/7/15 10:45 pm
                       Well, safe travels and such....robofin11710/7/15 11:05 pm
                       Hope it's not a permanent good-byekidtsunami10/8/15 9:56 am
                             Re: Levi...zofinda10/8/15 10:17 pm
                                   hehe, would be fun to have an HBO Hall Of Fame *NM*kidtsunami10/9/15 8:10 am
                       I agree Levi, Screw that Scarab douche!munky-05810/10/15 2:43 pm
                             Re: I agree Levi, Screw that Scarab douche!General Vagueness10/10/15 8:09 pm
                                   Once more, with feeling...Leviathan10/11/15 1:28 pm
                                         Re: Once more, with feeling...General Vagueness10/12/15 1:07 pm
                                               HBO HaikuAfroRyan10/12/15 1:57 pm
                                               Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)Leviathan10/12/15 5:17 pm
                                                     Re: Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)General Vagueness10/12/15 6:56 pm
                                                     Re: Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)uberfoop10/12/15 7:06 pm
                                                           Re: Twice more, with even MORE feeling... :)Leviathan10/12/15 7:25 pm
                                                                 Yes, they are beautifulscarab10/13/15 1:13 pm
                                                                       Re: Yes, they are beautifulLeviathan10/13/15 1:51 pm
                                                     Hey Levi, I think this might help.robofin11710/13/15 2:14 am
                                                           Re: Hey Levi, I think this might help.Leviathan10/13/15 2:50 am
           FORGEpete_the_duck10/7/15 7:42 pm
                 ..and lack of an edit button *NM*pete_the_duck10/7/15 7:44 pm
                       I like the lack of an edit button *NM*macgyver1010/7/15 10:49 pm
                 Re: FORGELeviathan10/7/15 7:45 pm
           hey who took my ashtray? *NM*Bounce-A-Gon10/7/15 8:21 pm

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