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Re: I hope the port winds up better.
By:uberfoop
Date: 12/20/14 2:16 pm
In Response To: Re: I hope the port winds up better. (scarab)

: Does the port use the two screen buffers or does it just use one? Or does
: nobody (outside of 343i) know?

Microsoft doesn't say much about their rendering tech, although it's worth noting that Bungie only chose to use the dual-buffer format because larger formats have various deficiencies on the 360's ancient tech (lack of gamma-correction for alpha blending, lack of support for alpha-blending, etc). Using a single large buffer would probably be a better match for the XB1 hardware, giving superior dynamic range and requiring fewer ROP operations (since you're interacting with 1 buffer instead of 2).
(This is one of those "numbers are hard to compare directly because new technology is more efficient" things.)
Thus changing to a single-buffer format wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing in itself. A switch to a 16-bit-per-channel fixed-point format could probably get slightly better results for cheaper than the original approach.

I'm pretty sure they changed the buffer format, for one main reason: the behavior of color banding seems different than in the original game. Part of that might just be the new gamma curve that aggressively compresses the range above and below. But that should compress the range and if anything reduce noticeable banding, I would think.
Some areas in the MCC version look fine, but some of the skies have really choppy banding with large bands of staggered sizes, most noticeable in Floodgate. {wild speculation} It makes me think that they switched to a single-buffer floating-point format, and the reduced precision in the high parts of the range reacted a bit awkwardly with Halo 3's visual makeup. {/wild speculation}


Messages In This Thread

Bonnie Ross' Letter to MCC Owners (ODST campaign!)Pennybags12/19/14 9:37 pm
     What... *NM*TDSpiral12/19/14 9:38 pm
     Bad link, sorry!Pennybags12/19/14 9:38 pm
     Re: Bonnie Ross' Letter to MCC Owners (ODST campaiThe BS Police12/19/14 9:42 pm
     Re: Nice - best Halo SP! Fact. *NM*mastrbiggy12/19/14 9:42 pm
           That sounds a lot like an opinionTDSpiral12/20/14 12:37 am
     Ooooh my god.LostSpartan98712/19/14 9:51 pm
     Whoops, my bad: Only one H2A map - Relic *NM*Pennybags12/19/14 9:51 pm
     More importantly... Relic!davidfuchs12/19/14 9:52 pm
     Is MCC worth buying at this point?Revenant198812/19/14 9:53 pm
           I'd say yesPennybags12/19/14 10:01 pm
           Reliably is a word to usepadraig0812/19/14 10:32 pm
                 Re: Reliably is a word to useLostSpartan98712/20/14 2:37 pm
           Re: Is MCC worth buying at this point?uberfoop12/19/14 11:23 pm
           This is only for Early Adopters. Launch to Today.Rice12/19/14 11:36 pm
                 Re: This is only for Early Adopters. Launch to TodRevenant198812/19/14 11:39 pm
                       Re: This is only for Early Adopters. Launch to TodRice12/19/14 11:44 pm
                 Re: This is only for Early Adopters. Launch to Todtln12/22/14 3:52 pm
                       Re: This is only for Early Adopters. Launch to Tod *NM*tln12/22/14 3:52 pm
                       Re: This is only for Early Adopters. Launch to TodKal12/22/14 5:08 pm
                       It's not a reward. It is an apology.scarab12/23/14 7:00 am
                             Re: It's not a reward. It is an apology.tln12/23/14 12:56 pm
                                   Re: It's not a reward. It is an apology.scarab12/23/14 3:12 pm
           NoAvateur12/20/14 12:12 am
           I'd say give it a couple more updates.LostSpartan98712/20/14 2:33 pm
     I think we can hold out for more... *GIF*Grizzlei12/19/14 10:00 pm
     Seems like fair compensation.Gravemind12/19/14 10:37 pm
           Re: Agreed.Hyokin12/20/14 1:07 am
     I hope the port winds up better.uberfoop12/19/14 11:26 pm
           Bummerscarab12/20/14 5:04 am
                 Re: Bummeruberfoop12/20/14 1:24 pm
           Re: I hope the port winds up better.scarab12/20/14 5:25 am
                 Re: I hope the port winds up better.uberfoop12/20/14 2:16 pm
     Not impressed, but why would I be?Avateur12/20/14 12:16 am
           How many months before ODST will work? *NM*Captain Spark12/20/14 8:46 am
           Time to take a break.Louis Wu12/20/14 2:21 pm
                 *Slow Clap*tadboz12/21/14 2:46 pm
                 Re: Notes this day in history *NM*thebruce012/22/14 11:03 am
     Re: Bonnie Ross' Letter to MCC Owners (ODST campaiDielectric12/20/14 12:25 am
     No firefight. :(bluerunner12/20/14 10:02 am
           that's not apples to apples thoughRevenant198812/20/14 6:46 pm
           OMGWTFBBQ!!!!Kermit12/20/14 7:08 pm
     From my POV - forgiven (partly) but not forgottenMoorpheusl912/20/14 5:10 pm
     Good dealAzo 'Galvat12/20/14 6:51 pm
     ...why?Dervish12/20/14 6:51 pm
           Re: ...why?uberfoop12/20/14 7:15 pm
                 more or less thisRevenant198812/20/14 7:26 pm
           Are you seriously excusing broken products?Gravemind12/20/14 7:31 pm
                 Re: Are you seriously excusing broken products?Dervish12/20/14 8:01 pm
                       That's not what I heard...RC Master12/20/14 9:25 pm
                             Re: That's not what I heard...General Vagueness12/21/14 5:02 pm
                                   Re: That's not what I heard...Cody Miller12/21/14 8:31 pm
                       Re: Are you seriously excusing broken products?uberfoop12/20/14 10:08 pm
                             Re: Are you seriously excusing broken products?Dervish12/20/14 11:28 pm
                       Re: Are you seriously excusing broken products?Gravemind12/20/14 10:14 pm
                             Re: Are you seriously excusing broken products?Dervish12/20/14 11:24 pm
           Re: ...why?The BS Police12/20/14 7:45 pm
           Re: ...why?Jordan11712/21/14 12:58 am
                 Re: ...why?thebruce012/22/14 11:16 am
           Why... not?UnrealCh13f12/21/14 3:44 am
     Re: Bonnie Ross' Letter to MCC Owners (ODST campaiuber_chaos12/20/14 11:15 pm
           Re: Bonnie Ross' Letter to MCC Owners (ODST campaiscarab12/21/14 3:59 am
     That'll do quite nicely. *NM*Quirel12/21/14 4:12 am

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