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Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.
By:NotTheVacuum
Date: 9/7/13 7:19 pm
In Response To: Re: First Xbox One TV commercial. (Gravemind)

: Well, I think your following statements are "absolutely absurd
: falsehoods."

The vast majority of sales will be made to non-gamers: Mom and Dad. If your kid asks for a next-gen console, as you said, the most popular games are cross-platform. The parents making the purchase start looking at the differentiating factors: What can this thing do after the kids are in bed? The Xbox One is a far more appealing package, and you yourself indicated it's mostly an either/or proposition. Most adult gamers capable of buying it for themselves have more than one interest in life. I suspect MS is emphasizing these features because they can tell they're popular on the current gen (by the number of people who use Netflix and Hulu on the 360). Bottom line, the one-trick pony doesn't do it anymore, and everybody knows from this generation that the 360 is about serious gaming.

Let's not ignore the dramatic difference between the online services the two companies provide. Live is clearly the dominant service.

: What possible advantages does the XBO provide the average non-gaming consumer
: that would be worth the asking price of $500 (+$60/year for XBL Gold,
: which is needed to access these features)?

I've already touched on the willingness of people to pay for experiences. The iPhone's popularity is practically entirely based on this premise. And there's a lot of value in the all-in-one box, as much as you'd like to dismiss that.

: Gamers are still the primary and likely only audience for these machines.

I just don't think that's an accurate description of the customer (it's not that simple; people are complex).

: It's hard to talk about Nintendo focusing on anything this generation in
: their ads because Wii U ads have been so rare that they may as well be
: nonexistent.

To be fair, you were talking about advertising (or I can read your post that way) and I was speaking more broadly. My main point is that Nintendo sells one-trick ponies (their efforts in online and multimedia have been token at best) and they're in trouble. By the by, compare 3DS sales to iOS-device sales for a better picture of how the one-trick pony is performing against the all-in-one device.


Messages In This Thread

First Xbox One TV commercial.Gravemind9/6/13 1:47 am
     Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.serpx9/6/13 1:53 am
           Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Harmanimus9/6/13 3:35 am
                 Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.NotTheVacuum9/6/13 7:20 am
     Built in Fantasy football?Cody Miller9/6/13 2:52 am
     Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Hyokin9/6/13 9:25 am
           You can play fantasy fb...does that count :p?kornman009/6/13 10:53 am
                 Re: You can play fantasy fb...does that count :p?Hyokin9/6/13 10:56 am
           Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.padraig089/6/13 12:46 pm
                 Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Hyokin9/6/13 12:57 pm
           Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.KP9/6/13 1:24 pm
                 Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Cody Miller9/6/13 2:02 pm
                       Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.bluerunner9/6/13 2:17 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Avateur9/6/13 2:23 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Hyokin9/6/13 3:03 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Cody Miller9/6/13 4:40 pm
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.bluerunner9/6/13 5:01 pm
                                         bluerunner never fails to deliver a story *NM*ZackDark9/6/13 6:42 pm
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Kal9/6/13 5:04 pm
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.General Vagueness9/7/13 7:34 pm
                       Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Louis Wu9/6/13 3:04 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Hyokin9/6/13 3:11 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Cody Miller9/6/13 4:43 pm
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Hyokin9/6/13 4:45 pm
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Louis Wu9/6/13 4:56 pm
                                         Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Cody Miller9/6/13 5:52 pm
                                   What did I just read? *NM*Pkmnrulz2409/7/13 2:22 am
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Quirel9/7/13 3:04 am
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Phoenix_92869/7/13 3:25 am
                                         Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Cody Miller9/7/13 4:24 pm
     Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.iForge9/6/13 1:30 pm
           Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Gravemind9/6/13 2:17 pm
                 Umm...Kal9/6/13 2:41 pm
                 Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.serpx9/6/13 2:47 pm
                       Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Kal9/6/13 2:58 pm
                       Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.serpx9/6/13 2:59 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.serpx9/6/13 3:05 pm
                 Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.NotTheVacuum9/7/13 9:47 am
                       Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.iForge9/7/13 1:12 pm
                       Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Gravemind9/7/13 3:12 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Louis Wu9/7/13 6:36 pm
                                   Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Cody Miller9/8/13 12:47 am
                                         Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Louis Wu9/8/13 2:28 pm
                             Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.NotTheVacuum9/7/13 7:19 pm
     Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.cheapLEY9/6/13 4:16 pm
           Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.Phoenix_92869/6/13 8:29 pm
           Re: First Xbox One TV commercial.iForge9/7/13 9:31 am

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