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Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...
By:Postmortem
Date: 8/20/13 11:24 pm

: I liked V when I saw it but there was a number of things in the plot I felt
: confused by or that seemed rushed. I read the comic for the first time
: after I had seen the film (benefiting from Hugo's great voice in my head)
: and immediately saw the important nuances that they missed, that for me,
: really made the story hit more effectively. Developing Natalie Portman's
: character better, putting more emphasis on the people letting the
: government go wrong and less villians in power, and especially the ending
: (SPOLIERS ahead). V was not a superhero, not a fighter with bullet time,
: he was a puppeteer and purposeful martyr, intending to be killed to
: fulfill his plot. And then instead of citizens uniting with masks on to
: overturn the government, the comic had the far more realistic happen:
: painful and bloody chaos and revolution.

: As for The Watchmen, I felt the movie grabbed most of the literal story okay,
: at least with the first half, but had none of the meta-stories that the
: comic told, which is what truly made an impression on me when I read it.
: I'm still noticing things in the designs and paneling that reveal more
: subtle cues, metaphors, and comparisons when I re-read it. Like I said in
: another post, it was a comic about comics, that told it in such a special
: way that I'm still learning about comic stortelling from it now. I'm not
: slighting it - it's just that he movie just couldn't replicate the diamond
: and x-patterns in the paneling and color schemes, the juxtaposition of the
: pirate story and newsstand duo alongside the superheros... because it's a
: comic about comics.

: Perhaps Arkham Asylum? That's definitely a pyschological romp, and its
: illustrated by Sandman's Dave McKean.

: If you want more existential/philosophical stuff, there's always the Death
: spinoffs Gaiman wrote, and all his early standalone works with McKean
: (like Signal to Noise I mentioned in another post - that is definitely one
: of the most meta stories I've ever read). There's also Violent Cases, Mr.
: Punch, Murder Mysteries, Cages. All good stuff. Hellblazer also has some
: great stories along the same lines.

: Look up Grant Morrison, Warren Ellis, and Jonathan Hickman's indie stuff - a
: lot of their work might hit a good balance between the philosophical and
: science fiction I know you love.

Cool. Will do. Thanks for the recommendations! :)


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     I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/14/13 11:25 pm
           Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Grizzlei8/14/13 11:37 pm
                 Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...TDSpiral8/14/13 11:52 pm
                       Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Grizzlei8/14/13 11:56 pm
                             Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/15/13 12:17 am
                                   Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Grizzlei8/15/13 12:23 am
                                         Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/15/13 12:53 am
                                               Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Grizzlei8/15/13 12:58 am
                                                     Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/15/13 1:12 am
                                                           Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Grizzlei8/15/13 1:31 am
                 Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/14/13 11:58 pm
                       Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Grizzlei8/15/13 12:09 am
                             Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/15/13 12:56 am
                                   Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...breitzen8/15/13 2:29 pm
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                                   Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Kermit8/16/13 1:03 pm
                                   Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Cody Miller8/18/13 2:25 am
                       Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Archilen8/15/13 4:08 am
                             Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/15/13 8:13 pm
           Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Cody Miller8/18/13 2:12 am
                 Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/19/13 2:15 pm
           Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Cody Miller8/18/13 2:21 am
                 Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/19/13 2:14 pm
                       Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Cody Miller8/19/13 3:50 pm
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                             Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Quirel8/19/13 11:00 pm
                             Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...uberfoop8/21/13 1:51 am
                             Ah, good old Cody "Zero sum" Miller *NM*General Vagueness8/24/13 10:06 pm
                       Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Postmortem8/19/13 10:17 pm
                             Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/19/13 10:33 pm
                                   Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Postmortem8/20/13 12:01 am
                                         Re: I have a hard time disconnecting my brain...Leviathan8/20/13 12:33 am
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