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Re: No backwards compatibility
By:General Vagueness
Date: 5/23/13 6:29 pm
In Response To: Re: No backwards compatibility (Bry)

: It's nothing to do with technology. Or at least, not in the way you might be
: thinking.

: The Mega-Drive was actually compatible with the Master-System.
: You just needed an adaptor because of the different cartridge slot.

your image here is broken

: This was possible because the hardware was fundamentally very similar. In
: some cases, they had some of the same chips. The Master-System CPU and
: Sound chip were both in the Mega-Drive, as co-processors, making the
: 16-bit console fundamentally compatible with the 8-bit one.
: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Drive#Master_System_compatibility .

: Most consoles are just incompatible on a hardware level as the technology has
: moved too far forward to maintain it.

: The reason the Wii is compatible with Gamecube games is because on a hardware
: level, the Wii is just a slightly beefed up Gamecube. Just like the
: Mega-Drive was a beefed up Master System.

: The PS2 is backwards compatible with the Playstation because it actually has
: the Playstation CPU inside it, the MIPS R3000A.

: Likewise the early NTSC PS3's were backwards compatible with the PS2 because
: they included the the PS2's CPU and GPU chips.
: By the time the PS3 reached PAL regions 5 months after the NTSC release, Sony
: had already stripped out the PS2's CPU to reduce costs, but left the GPU,
: so you had a hybrid of emulated and hardware compatibility.
: More PS2 games would run on these PS3's compared to Xbox games on Xbox 360,
: with widely variable levels of quality.
: 4 months later, NTSC consoles were also stripped of the Emotion Engine CPU.

: When MGS4 arrived in PAL regions in late 2007, the PS2's GPU was also deleted
: and from that point on, all future revisions of PS3 consoles had zero
: compatability with PS2 games.

: PSOne games are entirely emulated on the PS3, but that's really rather easy
: to do with the hardware.

nice history lesson

: Emulation requires a huge amount of grunt compared to being compatible on a
: hardware level.

I'd just like to add: http://www.thocp.net/software/games/reference/compatibility_backward.htm


Messages In This Thread

HBO, meet XBO *NM*pete_the_duck5/21/13 2:19 pm
     No I want the NEW XboxJDQuackers5/21/13 2:23 pm
     So stupid.Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316)5/21/13 2:24 pm
           +1. Or, Infinity. *NM*Morpheus5/21/13 2:43 pm
     Re: HBO, meet XBOiForge5/21/13 2:29 pm
           Re: HBO, meet XBOPkmnrulz2405/21/13 3:15 pm
                 Where do you go from Xbox One?! Xbox Two? *NM*JDQuackers5/21/13 3:17 pm
                 Aleph One, duh...RC Master5/21/13 3:45 pm
     More like Xbox PARADOX.NsU Soldier5/21/13 2:33 pm
           Yo Dawg, I Herd U Liek Xbox 1 In Yo Xbox... *NM*Morpheus5/21/13 2:44 pm
     Re: HBO, meet XBO *NM*doober1875/21/13 2:41 pm
           ^ No edit button for you, my friend. *NM*NsU Soldier5/21/13 2:42 pm
     The X-BONE *NM*doober1875/21/13 2:43 pm
           Re: That would be the XB1 :) *NM*DEEP NNN5/21/13 4:33 pm
     Re: HBO, meet XBOBry5/21/13 2:44 pm
           Re: HBO, meet XBOscarab5/21/13 2:54 pm
                 Re: HBO, meet XBOBry5/21/13 2:59 pm
                       Re: HBO, meet XBOCARDO 8 ATL5/21/13 3:07 pm
     No backwards compatibilityTDSpiral5/21/13 2:47 pm
           How can it be the Xbox 'One'...RC Master5/21/13 3:03 pm
                 Re: How can it be the Xbox 'One'...NsU Soldier5/21/13 3:04 pm
                 XBOX ONE/3 *NM*doober1875/21/13 3:04 pm
                       Exactly, Three.Morpheus5/21/13 3:36 pm
           Re: No backwards compatibilityLeviathan5/22/13 2:42 am
           Re: No backwards compatibilitycheapLEY5/22/13 4:56 am
                 Re: No backwards compatibilityNsU Soldier5/22/13 6:24 am
                       Re: No backwards compatibilityBry5/22/13 6:39 am
                             Re: No backwards compatibilityGeneral Vagueness5/23/13 4:18 pm
                                   Re: No backwards compatibilityBry5/23/13 5:25 pm
                       Re: No backwards compatibilitycheapLEY5/22/13 9:41 am
                 Re: No backwards compatibilityZackDark5/22/13 12:23 pm
                 Re: No backwards compatibilityTDSpiral5/22/13 12:47 pm
                       Re: No backwards compatibilityBry5/22/13 1:23 pm
                             Re: No backwards compatibilityGeneral Vagueness5/23/13 6:29 pm
                                   Re: No backwards compatibilityBry5/23/13 8:27 pm
                                         Soo...gamerguy20025/24/13 1:28 am
                       You have summed up my thoughts EXACTLY.NsU Soldier5/23/13 3:43 pm
                 Re: No backwards compatibilityGeneral Vagueness5/23/13 4:11 pm
                       Re: No backwards compatibilitythebruce05/23/13 7:22 pm
     Has link to design vid for new boxscarab5/21/13 2:51 pm
           Re: Has link to design vid for new boxBry5/21/13 3:02 pm
                 +1111111111 *NM*Pkmnrulz2405/21/13 3:14 pm
     I think I'm just gonna stick with what I got.LostSpartan9875/21/13 3:12 pm
           Re: I think I'm just gonna stick with what I got.Bry5/21/13 6:58 pm
                 Re: I think I'm just gonna stick with what I got.LostSpartan9875/21/13 7:38 pm
                       Re: I think I'm just gonna stick with what I got.Bry5/21/13 7:57 pm
     I want a games console, not a media center *NM*Vincent5/21/13 5:59 pm
     Maybe next Xbox, MicrosoftDevil Mingy5/21/13 7:13 pm
           Re: Maybe next Xbox, MicrosoftBry5/21/13 7:27 pm
                 Re: Maybe next Xbox, MicrosoftDevil Mingy5/21/13 7:46 pm
     Not very impressed.Gravemind5/21/13 7:41 pm
           Oh, great. Well, PS4, here I come.Gravemind5/21/13 8:01 pm
                 Re: Oh, great. Well, PS4, here I come.Bry5/21/13 8:17 pm
                       Re: Oh, great. Well, PS4, here I come.Gravemind5/21/13 8:55 pm
                 Actually, that might be a bit premature.Gravemind5/21/13 8:50 pm
                       Re: Actually, that might be a bit premature.Revenant19885/21/13 8:57 pm
                       Re: Actually, that might be a bit premature.Devil Mingy5/21/13 9:22 pm
                             Re: Actually, that might be a bit premature.Bry5/21/13 9:29 pm
                                   Re: Actually, that might be a bit premature.Devil Mingy5/21/13 9:51 pm
                                         HehMr Daax5/21/13 10:54 pm
                                         Speaking of damage control...Devil Mingy5/21/13 10:59 pm
           Re: Not very impressed.cheapLEY5/21/13 10:05 pm
     IT'S A GREAT FREAKING NAME #notbiased *NM*GrimBrother One5/21/13 10:43 pm
     Yup. Definitely a modder.Quirel5/21/13 11:26 pm
           Needs 70s-style wood paneling.Gravemind5/21/13 11:45 pm
     The highlight reel *VID*TDSpiral5/22/13 1:07 am
           There is one thing missing from that:Bry5/22/13 5:19 am
                 The fish - now they get out of your way! *NM*thebruce05/22/13 10:12 am
           Re: The highlight reel *VID*DHalo5/22/13 12:21 pm
     A XBO graph by Dan MaherBry5/22/13 8:26 am
           I didn't find the dog convincingscarab5/23/13 1:20 am
     Everything you need to know, Abridged *vid*Bry5/22/13 11:35 am

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