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Present thoughts about the future *long*
Posted By: HedgemonyDate: 4/11/12 9:44 p.m.


Hello. My name is Hedgemony. I first joined this site in 2002. I have seen this community grow in so many great ways. I have seen community members rise and many who drifted away. I am one of the members who first joined because Halo:CE had this great backdrop that I wanted to explore more. For me, that is what is at the heart of a great Halo game. Adventure and exploration.

Fast forward to now and when I look back on all of the Halo games I appreciate them in many different ways. But that was then. All of the elements that drew me into the universe in the beginning had become diluted over time. Large alien worlds, deeper mysteries, exploration. Halo for me was always about going to an alien world, kicking ass and then blowing shit up. And that changed with Reach. It became all about fighting an invasion. I've missed that "Boy's own" adventure element for years now.

I recently retired myself from the Halo community to answer questions that I had about what it means to me to be a Halo fan. What brings me back? What do I want from a Halo game? Why is HBO ripping itself apart with constant streams of like/dislike posts. If you take time off from HBO and come back you see this:

"I hate that. Fuck you 343."
"I agree. This isn't Halo."
"I agree with your agreement. HATE."
"This isn't Bungie-like."

And that is all you see. That is all that new people would see too if they happened upon HBO. Not exactly going to spark interesting conversation. It's also making some intelligent posters look completely stupid too.

Is this based on having Bungie helm the series for so long and it's just separation anxiety? Are people so worried that 343 will fail them? Are folks just so fixed in their ways after Halo has remained so "samey" for so long that automatically change is bad? Or are people so eager to play the game and see what 343 have done that they are expressing their concerns in worried ways? Don't answer this here, ask yourselves this question.

My time away on the mountain made me realize this. Everything I have seen so far from 343 is exactly what I want from a Halo game. All of those elements that brought me into the series are now showing up in Halo4 screenshots. I wanted a new Halo game that was fresh. Comparing Halo4 to older titles is inevitable. Here, I feel that it is unfair and even unwise to do so. A new team, new vision, new ways to play.

No one is trying to take my "Halo" from me. All signs point to 343 wanting to give me "my" Halo back. And then something new. How can I hate this? I really can't. Recently I was playing Vanquish (if you haven't then I insist you do) and I thought to myself, "That would be cool if it was in Halo." How many games have you done this with as well? If 343 take what works from other games and adds that to the core experience of Halo then I'm not going to complain.

I ask the community to take a deep breath. Not take everything so seriously and realize that what you say does have an affect on community harmony and those who find their way here to read what has always been the standard for HBO. Intelligent conversation and ideas without having to resort to name calling, auto responses of "this sucks." Try looking upon Halo4 with fresh eyes. Appreciate the artists and people who are making a game with you in mind. Change is good. Change is healthy for Halo.

Halo is moving into the future and unfortunately I see people leaving themselves behind. And it's not 343's fault at all.

-Hedge. "History is a relentless master. It has no present, only the past rushing into the future. To try to hold fast is to be swept aside." - JFK.


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Present thoughts about the future *long*Hedgemony 4/11/12 9:44 p.m.
     I'm Grim, & this is my favorite post on the forum *NM*GrimBrother One 4/11/12 9:50 p.m.
     Hear hear! *NM*Das Kalk 4/11/12 9:53 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Stephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/11/12 10:16 p.m.
     Brilliantly well put, mirrors my own thoughts. *NM*Tiny 4/11/12 10:19 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*stabbim 4/11/12 10:23 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*bluerunner 4/11/12 10:26 p.m.
     well put *NM*kidtsunami 4/11/12 10:29 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*KP 4/11/12 10:31 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*tucsonbatman 4/11/12 10:57 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*DEEP NNN 4/12/12 6:37 a.m.
           Just you wait. You're next! :p *NM*rhubarb 4/12/12 10:57 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*breitzen 4/11/12 10:41 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Frankie 4/12/12 12:21 a.m.
                 Frankie's mental image of HBO until releaseThe Lionheart 4/12/12 12:36 a.m.
                 You dun good kid, great post. *NM*Pebbles 4/12/12 12:55 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Frankie 4/12/12 12:26 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Quirel 4/12/12 12:46 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Das Kalk 4/12/12 10:52 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Metalingus627 4/12/12 5:00 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*kanbo 4/11/12 10:52 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Vic DeLeon 4/11/12 10:56 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Der Flatulator 4/16/12 9:44 a.m.
                 Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Der Flatulator 4/16/12 9:49 a.m.
                       Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*RC Master 4/16/12 10:58 a.m.
     We have seen the angst before.Captain Spark 4/11/12 11:00 p.m.
     AgreedAnton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/11/12 11:04 p.m.
     Sing it! Truth. *NM*yakaman 4/11/12 11:11 p.m.
     Well put, indeed. *NM*Leviathan 4/11/12 11:22 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*uberfoop 4/11/12 11:35 p.m.
           Re: Change is gouda. *NM*Hedgemony 4/11/12 11:37 p.m.
                 Halo 4 LE = Wheel of smoked gouda? *NM*uberfoop 4/12/12 12:09 a.m.
     Thank you again...GrimBrother One 4/11/12 11:49 p.m.
           Re: Thank you again...Tiny 4/12/12 7:53 a.m.
     Why Halo 4 will be a very bad game *Long, IMGs*Schooly D 4/12/12 12:07 a.m.
     Exquisitely well put, Hedge.The Lionheart 4/12/12 12:23 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Morhek 4/12/12 12:36 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*stabbim 4/12/12 12:48 a.m.
                 Can a hipster hate hating? Is that possible? *NM*The Lionheart 4/12/12 12:56 a.m.
                       I for one, can't wait for E3Pebbles 4/12/12 1:01 a.m.
                       Love is the new hate. *NM*Kalamari 4/12/12 1:25 a.m.
     Oh Yeah?Bones 4/12/12 1:21 a.m.
           Hedgemony: Voice of Reason and Love *NM*thebruce0 4/12/12 1:44 a.m.
     I'm finding it harder to express my thoughts...Phoenix_9286 4/12/12 2:16 a.m.
           Re: I'm finding it harder to express my thoughts..NsU Soldier 4/12/12 5:24 a.m.
     Josh Holmes took notice of this on twitter. *NM*Bryan Newman 4/12/12 2:17 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*BlueNinja 4/12/12 5:36 a.m.
           Of course you still have a place here.The Lionheart 4/12/12 11:45 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*General Vagueness 4/16/12 6:54 p.m.
     I don't have favorites, but you're my favorite. *NM*Louis Wu 4/12/12 6:44 a.m.
     Nicely put :) *NM*Ciarán 4/12/12 6:48 a.m.
     Well said. *NM*Beckx 4/12/12 7:23 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*DEEP NNN 4/12/12 7:37 a.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*SonofMacPhisto 4/12/12 8:38 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*CaneCutter 4/12/12 8:06 a.m.
     Completely Agree (Glad Someone Said It!)ChrisTheeCrappy 4/12/12 8:57 a.m.
           Re: Completely Agree (Glad Someone Said It!)JDQuackers 4/12/12 12:18 p.m.
     i agreeiForge 4/12/12 10:37 a.m.
     Finally!Der Flatulator 4/12/12 10:45 a.m.
           Re: Finally!Der Flatulator 4/12/12 10:54 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Tawpgun 4/12/12 10:58 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Postmortem 4/12/12 10:58 a.m.
     Hedge is a HammerImpervium 4/12/12 11:08 a.m.
     Well met, sir.dogsounds 4/12/12 12:08 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*padraig08 4/12/12 12:10 p.m.
     Best thing I've read on the net in a long while!LostSpartan987 4/12/12 12:36 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Cody Miller 4/12/12 3:23 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*DEEP NNN 4/12/12 4:03 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Hawaiian Pig 4/12/12 11:30 p.m.
           your thoughts on "social"kidtsunami 4/13/12 2:26 a.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*MacGyver10 4/12/12 3:31 p.m.
     You made my day, HedgeCortanaVII 4/12/12 4:36 p.m.
     Amen. *NM*Lawnmower172 4/12/12 5:16 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*GreyThor 4/12/12 8:51 p.m.
           Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Quantum 4/12/12 11:04 p.m.
     My thoughts on this situation.Gravemind 4/13/12 6:31 p.m.
           Re: My thoughts on this situation.Gravemind 4/13/12 6:39 p.m.
           Re: My thoughts on this situation.343winks. 4/14/12 12:19 p.m.
     Like you've spoken for me. *Sorta Long*DrDoctor 4/13/12 11:29 p.m.
     Change *slightly-long*Der Flatulator 4/14/12 8:50 a.m.
           Re: Change *slightly-long*DEEP NNN 4/14/12 9:03 a.m.
           It isn't all good.rhubarb 4/14/12 10:40 a.m.
                 Re: It isn't all good.serpx 4/14/12 2:45 p.m.
                       Re: It isn't all good.rhubarb 4/14/12 3:29 p.m.
           Change for change's sake.Gravemind 4/14/12 7:11 p.m.
                 Re: Change for change's sake.Harmanimus 4/14/12 7:59 p.m.
                       Re: Change for change's sake.Gravemind 4/14/12 8:32 p.m.
                             Re: Change for change's sake.Cody Miller 4/14/12 10:07 p.m.
                                   Re: Change for change's sake.Leviathan 4/14/12 10:52 p.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.Cody Miller 4/15/12 12:20 a.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.SonofMacPhisto 4/15/12 9:04 a.m.
                                               Re: Change for change's sake.Leviathan 4/15/12 1:36 p.m.
                                                     Re: Change for change's sake.Cody Miller 4/15/12 2:18 p.m.
                                                           Re: Change for change's sake.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:29 p.m.
                                                           Re: Change for change's sake.Leviathan 4/15/12 2:33 p.m.
                                                                 To HP and Levirhubarb 4/15/12 3:01 p.m.
                                                                       Not at allLeviathan 4/15/12 3:15 p.m.
                                                                             Re: Not at allrhubarb 4/15/12 3:27 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: Not at allLeviathan 4/15/12 3:47 p.m.
                                                                                         Warning: Unintended rantMetalingus627 4/15/12 5:13 p.m.
                                                                                               Alienation is unavoidablerhubarb 4/15/12 5:31 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: Alienation is unavoidableMetalingus627 4/15/12 5:47 p.m.
                                                                                                           Because A sucks and B is an egg, obviously.rhubarb 4/15/12 6:31 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: Because A sucks and B is an egg, obviously.Metalingus627 4/15/12 7:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                       My point is...rhubarb 4/15/12 7:55 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 8:24 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...rhubarb 4/15/12 8:45 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...Cody Miller 4/15/12 9:04 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 9:55 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/15/12 10:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/15/12 10:26 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...DHalo 4/15/12 11:01 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 6:46 a.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: My point is...RC Master 4/16/12 11:12 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 11:52 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: to add to thisRevenant1988 4/16/12 12:25 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgRC Master 4/16/12 6:23 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgRevenant1988 4/16/12 7:39 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgthebruce0 4/17/12 11:18 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: PirateUnicorns.bungie.orgRC Master 4/17/12 9:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...RC Master 4/16/12 6:09 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 7:21 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/16/12 7:54 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/16/12 8:01 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/16/12 8:06 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...General Vagueness 4/16/12 10:43 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 7:54 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                               Re: My point is...General Vagueness 4/17/12 10:51 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 11:02 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...General Vagueness 4/17/12 12:37 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 1:32 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                   Re: My point is...RC Master 4/17/12 8:33 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                                         Re: My point is...DEEP NNN 4/17/12 10:43 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: My point is...Metalingus627 4/16/12 2:52 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...uberfoop 4/16/12 3:08 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: My point is...Metalingus627 4/16/12 10:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...Gravemind 4/16/12 3:17 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: My point is...Quirel 4/16/12 6:17 p.m.
                                   Re: Change for change's sake.SonGoharotto 4/14/12 11:29 p.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 12:53 a.m.
                                               I have my moments *NM*SonGoharotto 4/15/12 8:08 a.m.
                                   Re: Change for change's sake.343winks. 4/15/12 3:55 a.m.
                                         Re: Change for change's sake.RC Master 4/15/12 10:32 a.m.
                                               Re: Change for change's sake.Hedgemony 4/15/12 12:30 p.m.
                                                     Re: Change for change's sake.343winks. 4/16/12 4:50 a.m.
                                               Re: Change for change's sake.343winks. 4/16/12 4:45 a.m.
                             I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Louis Wu 4/15/12 8:31 a.m.
                                   Just playing Devil's advocate here...SonGoharotto 4/15/12 9:23 a.m.
                                         Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...Louis Wu 4/15/12 9:43 a.m.
                                               Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...davidfuchs 4/15/12 9:53 a.m.
                                               Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...SonGoharotto 4/15/12 11:30 a.m.
                                                     Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/15/12 12:13 p.m.
                                                     Re: Just playing Devil's advocate here...General Vagueness 4/16/12 7:05 p.m.
                                   Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Gravemind 4/15/12 12:38 p.m.
                                         Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Louis Wu 4/15/12 12:48 p.m.
                                               Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Cody Miller 4/15/12 1:04 p.m.
                                                     Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Leviathan 4/15/12 1:47 p.m.
                                                           Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Cody Miller 4/15/12 2:16 p.m.
                                                                 Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Leviathan 4/15/12 2:27 p.m.
                                                                       Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:28 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:31 p.m.
                                                                             Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Leviathan 4/15/12 2:35 p.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.Hawaiian Pig 4/15/12 2:54 p.m.
                                                                                   To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 3:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: To clarifyrhubarb 4/15/12 3:07 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: To clarifySchooly D 4/15/12 3:40 p.m.
                                                                                               The question everyone is dancing aroundrhubarb 4/15/12 3:48 p.m.
                                                                                                     This has nothing to do with CoD.uberfoop 4/15/12 4:41 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: This has nothing to do with CoD.rhubarb 4/15/12 5:07 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: This has nothing to do with CoD.uberfoop 4/15/12 5:47 p.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: This has nothing to do with CoD.rhubarb 4/15/12 6:04 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: The question everyone is dancing aroundCody Miller 4/15/12 5:20 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: The question everyone is dancing aroundrhubarb 4/15/12 5:56 p.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: The question everyone is dancing aroundCody Miller 4/15/12 6:13 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 4:01 p.m.
                                                                                         Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/15/12 5:14 p.m.
                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 10:10 p.m.
                                                                                                     Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/15/12 11:15 p.m.
                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/15/12 11:49 p.m.
                                                                                                                 leviathan's opinion makes mine redundant *NM*kidtsunami 4/16/12 12:13 a.m.
                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/16/12 12:39 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 2:08 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarify343winks. 4/16/12 6:04 a.m.
                                                                                                                       Re: To clarifyLouis Wu 4/16/12 8:28 a.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarifyRevenant1988 4/16/12 10:11 a.m.
                                                                                                                             ...........what is thisHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 12:33 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: ...........what is thisLouis Wu 4/16/12 12:53 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: ...........what is thisHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 1:14 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarifyHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 12:46 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 2:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                             Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/16/12 2:13 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 2:30 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/16/12 3:18 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/16/12 3:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                     This conversation has gone in an awkward directionuberfoop 4/16/12 4:11 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcLeviathan 4/16/12 4:32 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcMiguel Chavez 4/16/12 4:35 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcLeviathan 4/16/12 4:44 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcStephen L. (SoundEffect) 4/16/12 9:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcHawaiian Pig 4/16/12 5:36 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direc343winks. 4/17/12 5:58 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcLeviathan 4/17/12 2:02 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                             Re: This conversation has gone in an awkward direcBeckx 4/17/12 2:22 p.m.
                                                                                                                                   Re: To clarifyLouis Wu 4/16/12 3:00 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: To clarifyMiguel Chavez 4/16/12 3:28 p.m.
                                                                                                                                         Re: To clarify343winks. 4/17/12 5:24 a.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: To clarifyLouis Wu 4/17/12 7:07 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                     Re: To clarifyCody Miller 4/17/12 12:13 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyGeneral Vagueness 4/17/12 12:50 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyHawaiian Pig 4/17/12 10:59 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       Re: To clarifyuberfoop 4/18/12 12:08 a.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyMiguel Chavez 4/17/12 1:21 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 GODWINNED *NM*Cody Miller 4/17/12 1:58 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                           Re: To clarifyLeviathan 4/17/12 2:19 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyMiguel Chavez 4/17/12 3:51 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                       That's a lousy safe-word, Mig. *NM*Anton P. Nym (aka Steve) 4/17/12 4:56 p.m.
                                                                                                                                                                 Re: To clarifyHawaiian Pig 4/17/12 11:00 p.m.
                                                                                                                                               Re: To clarifyGeneral Vagueness 4/17/12 10:45 a.m.
                                                                                   Re: I'm gonna rename you Chicken Little.uberfoop 4/15/12 4:52 p.m.
                                               Change in Halo= GoodBWOLoneWolf 4/16/12 7:17 a.m.
                                                     Re: Change in Halo= GoodMetalingus627 4/16/12 10:48 a.m.
                                                           Re: Change in Halo= GoodMetalingus627 4/16/12 10:48 a.m.
                                         Now here's what I'm wonderingSonGoharotto 4/15/12 1:25 p.m.
                                               A tale of Spartan Points.NsU Soldier 4/15/12 5:44 p.m.
                                                     The Spartan Phone is ringing!SonGoharotto 4/15/12 9:19 p.m.
                                                           What if the Spartan phones... rang? *NM*Louis Wu 4/16/12 8:31 a.m.
                                                     Re: A tale of Spartan Points.General Vagueness 4/16/12 2:40 a.m.
                       Re: Change for change's sake.uberfoop 4/14/12 9:20 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*Kermit 4/15/12 8:37 p.m.
     Re: Present thoughts about the future *long*General Vagueness 4/16/12 12:45 a.m.
     When threads get this long...Tiny 4/16/12 4:08 p.m.
           Re: When threads get this long...uberfoop 4/16/12 4:13 p.m.
           Re: When threads get this long...Schooly D 4/16/12 4:26 p.m.
           Re: When threads get this long...Miguel Chavez 4/16/12 4:34 p.m.
                 This.Urban Reflex 4/16/12 4:53 p.m.
                       Re: This.Quirel 4/16/12 6:06 p.m.
                 Re: When threads get this long...Tiny 4/16/12 10:36 p.m.
           This thread is too long. Here, I'll make it longerRC Master 4/16/12 6:51 p.m.
                 Re: This thread is too long. Here, I'll make it loMiguel Chavez 4/16/12 7:22 p.m.
           Coke tastes better from a can.Vandle Valsher 4/16/12 7:57 p.m.
                 Re: Coke tastes better from a can.Miguel Chavez 4/16/12 8:40 p.m.
                       Re: Coke tastes better from a can.Metalingus627 4/16/12 10:12 p.m.
                             Re: Coke tastes better from a can.Gravemind 4/16/12 11:28 p.m.



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