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Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1

Posted By: RC Master Date: 3/19/12 7:20 a.m.

So I was discussing this yesterday. I decided to break it up into several sections and publish over the course of a few days as I go back and edit it a bit.
Part 1 called 'Capture the Grief' is up on my site.
Highlights:
Team Objective has most gametypes, but very few players.

Player Investment is a problem due to kill-conditioning

But that wouldn’t matter if gametypes were better, and we can fix that too

Theory for fun: Kill and win

2 Flag CTF (the ‘classic’ non-slayer gametype) allows both of these to be non-present for one side

And it allows this for an extended period of time: "Griefing"

Sudden Death gets exploited by teams that don’t need it to kill more

It’s unclear whether to attack or defend

Unless you’re winning: then you just defend

Overall: Seems insane that a landslide game of 2-0 goes on just as long as a fun, interesting game to 2-2, as well as a boring game of 0-0.

In Part 2, I'll go through many of the other 'Objective' gametypes and discuss how they suffer from similar issues. It'll probably be 8 or 9 parts in all.
Let me know your thoughts, your perspectives, if you agree with me, and if you don't, why not. If you spot any mistakes or anywhere where you think my editing could be better, let me know also. This has taken up a lot of time and I have many other things I wish to do so, I've done some things pretty fast.
:)

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Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	RC Master	3/19/12 7:20 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	melee	3/19/12 9:11 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Apirishin	3/19/12 9:39 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	RC Master	3/19/12 1:49 p.m.
This is why I prefer FFA Objectives	SonGoharotto	3/19/12 10:35 a.m.
Re: This is why I prefer FFA Objectives	RC Master	3/19/12 2:05 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Pkmnrulz240	3/19/12 12:49 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	RC Master	3/19/12 3:01 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	uberfoop	3/19/12 3:30 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Bosticman	3/19/12 5:02 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Pkmnrulz240	3/19/12 4:03 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	uberfoop	3/19/12 4:44 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Pkmnrulz240	3/19/12 5:21 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	uberfoop	3/19/12 5:29 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	RC Master	3/19/12 7:32 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Pkmnrulz240	3/19/12 7:43 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Revenant1988	3/19/12 8:05 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Pkmnrulz240	3/19/12 8:33 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	RC Master	3/20/12 7:58 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Revenant1988	3/20/12 8:33 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	RC Master	3/20/12 9:29 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Apirishin	3/20/12 10:04 a.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	uberfoop	3/19/12 7:44 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Gravemind	3/19/12 10:18 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	uberfoop	3/19/12 10:49 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Gravemind	3/19/12 11:58 p.m.
Re: Why Halo's Objective Gametypes Suck - Part 1	Gravemind	3/19/12 10:09 p.m.
Part 2 -Why the other objectives suck too	RC Master	3/20/12 8:12 a.m.
Re: Part 2 -Why the other objectives suck too	ZaneZavin	3/20/12 10:57 a.m.
Re: Part 2 -Why the other objectives suck too	RC Master	3/20/12 12:10 p.m.
Part 3 - Slayer's Problems	RC Master	3/20/12 11:55 a.m.
Re: Part 3 - Slayer's Problems	Beckx	3/20/12 12:01 p.m.
Invasion slayer.	uberfoop	3/20/12 12:09 p.m.
Re: Invasion slayer.	RC Master	3/20/12 12:15 p.m.
Re: Invasion slayer.	uberfoop	3/20/12 12:32 p.m.
I was wondering about that...	SonGoharotto	3/20/12 1:58 p.m.
Re: I was wondering about that...	bluerunner	3/20/12 2:11 p.m.
Re: I was wondering about that...	Beckx	3/20/12 2:31 p.m.
Invasion is awesome. (LONG)	Revenant1988	3/20/12 2:50 p.m.
Agreed.	Gravemind	3/20/12 3:14 p.m.
Re: Agreed.	Apirishin	3/20/12 3:45 p.m.
What if Invasion didn't mean taking turns?	SonGoharotto	3/20/12 4:23 p.m.
Re: What if Invasion didn't mean taking turns?	Apirishin	3/20/12 4:27 p.m.
^ This NM	SonGoharotto	3/20/12 4:42 p.m.
Re: Invasion is awesome. (LONG)	RC Master	3/21/12 12:15 a.m.
Changing The Narrative	SonGoharotto	3/20/12 3:41 p.m.
Part 4 - Broken, but can it still be fun?	RC Master	3/20/12 8:58 p.m.
Part 5 - Invasion & Rush	RC Master	3/20/12 11:37 p.m.
Hey Wu...?	RC Master	3/21/12 3:32 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Louis Wu	3/21/12 8:19 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Sqorck	3/21/12 8:58 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Revenant1988	3/21/12 9:00 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Louis Wu	3/21/12 9:18 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Revenant1988	3/21/12 9:36 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	CaneCutter	3/21/12 10:18 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	RC Master	3/21/12 1:31 p.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Louis Wu	3/21/12 1:52 p.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Miguel Chavez	3/22/12 12:05 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	DEEP NNN	3/22/12 6:37 a.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	RC Master	3/22/12 12:55 p.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Hoovaloov	3/21/12 5:31 p.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	RC Master	3/22/12 2:34 p.m.
Re: Hey Wu...?	Hoovaloov	3/22/12 7:26 p.m.
Part 6 - 3-Plot Territories	RC Master	3/22/12 10:45 a.m.
Re: Part 6 - 3-Plot Territories	ZaneZavin	3/22/12 4:25 p.m.
Re: Part 6 - 3-Plot Territories	nillapuddin	3/22/12 7:37 p.m.
Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/23/12 8:51 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ChrisTheeCrappy	3/23/12 11:34 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	pete_the_duck	3/23/12 12:23 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ChrisTheeCrappy	3/23/12 12:32 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	pete_the_duck	3/23/12 12:40 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ChrisTheeCrappy	3/23/12 12:53 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/24/12 1:52 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	pete_the_duck	3/24/12 3:02 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ZaneZavin	3/24/12 7:08 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	pete_the_duck	3/24/12 7:21 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ZaneZavin	3/24/12 7:56 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/25/12 4:52 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/25/12 4:48 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/25/12 4:40 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	pete_the_duck	3/25/12 10:59 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ZaneZavin	3/25/12 11:51 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/26/12 5:28 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	pete_the_duck	3/26/12 7:32 p.m.
Pete, you have a deal	RC Master	4/4/12 2:10 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/24/12 1:43 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/24/12 9:48 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	RC Master	3/24/12 12:48 p.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ChrisTheeCrappy	3/26/12 12:50 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	Hoovaloov	3/26/12 1:51 a.m.
Re: Part 7 - Invasion Control gametype	ChrisTheeCrappy	3/26/12 8:46 a.m.
Part 8 - Slayer and Flag evolved	RC Master	3/25/12 6:10 p.m.
Re: Part 8 - Slayer and Flag evolved	Hoovaloov	3/26/12 2:24 a.m.
Re: Part 8 - Slayer and Flag evolved	RC Master	3/26/12 4:50 a.m.
Part 9 - A different way to Assault	RC Master	4/4/12 2:32 p.m.
Part 10 & 11 - Weird versions of Oddball, King etc	RC Master	4/10/12 1:51 p.m.
:'( no reactions at all?	RC Master	4/11/12 3:06 p.m.
I only just caught up	SonGoharotto	4/11/12 9:40 p.m.
Re: I only just caught up	RC Master	4/12/12 9:21 a.m.
Re: I only just caught up	SonGoharotto	4/12/12 8:08 p.m.
Re: Part 10 & 11 - Weird versions of Oddball, King	stabbim	4/12/12 3:32 p.m.