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Posted By: Quirel <I_am_quirel@hotmail.com>Date: 2/16/12 1:31 a.m.

In Response To: Bip. Bop. Bulletin! (Hyokin)


Well, I've reread the bulletin a couple of times, and I get the feeling that it's a load of waffle.

A Spartan tossing his chest plate should feel like an anvil dropping….

A Spartan sprinting across concrete should be a stealthy whisper….

Putting on your helmet should feel like powering up an F-15E….

These are the sorts of experiences we want to give the players.

This is what the Senior Art Director closed with, and it sounds good. But what he's talking about is feel, action, what's usually conveyed with gameplay, and therefore not immediately relevant to the redesign.

-Ch-ch-ch-changes

Typically, from Halo to Halo, the Master Chief’s armor has changed and adapted, and there have been fictional reasons why. With Halo 4, we’re taking a different approach and focusing on the storytelling aspects of art from the design standpoint.

This is the part where I started hearing warning sirens.
The Master Chief's armor has changed, and there were fictional reasons why. There were a lot of things that changed in the Halo games, mostly due to gameplay. Assault rifles were absent in Halo 2, the ultra-powerful handgun of Halo:CE was never seen again, stuff like that.
The Master Chief's armor was an exception, because the drastic changes were explained. The Forerunner aesthetic was largely untouched, as were the Halos.

These spoke out to me because their consistency indicated that the universe was well-thought out, cohesive. I want there to still be reasons for why things change.

-Storytelling

They then claim that they're looking at storytelling via design.
I say that he's either lying, or 343i sucks at it.

Some of us on this forum have been talking about storytelling through design for a while, namely with using consistent MJOLNIR designs to communicate when a story takes place.
The teaser trailer for Halo 4 opened up with the Chief launching out of his cryotube in an unknown version of MJOLNIR.

The result wasn't a story told, but six months of bickering on the forums over whether it's a new version the Chief will get in-game, 'artistic license', or a modification made en-route.

-One last thought

I can understand a new studio wanting to flex their muscles, show us what they got. But they have to remember that Halo was Bungie's baby. Bungie is the studio that made the trilogy. The success of Halo was Bungie's accomplishment, made by Bungie's sweat.

If you want to change things, fine. Just show some respect. The jokes about "Astro-nappys" fall especially short when your own designs are much worse.

As for the Chief looking "Nimble yet heavy", what was wrong with the style we've seen in the past three MJOLNIR generations?

As for the codpiece... I dunno. Without the section that wraps around the waist, it looks a little too phallic. Work on it.

And that's my overly long, poorly worded post for the day.


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Bip. Bop. Bulletin!Hyokin 2/15/12 8:51 p.m.
     Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!GrimBrother One 2/15/12 8:53 p.m.
           Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!Hyokin 2/15/12 9:17 p.m.
     Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!ZackDark 2/15/12 9:08 p.m.
           Zack, Paddy says he wants out of you... *NM*Hyokin 2/15/12 9:18 p.m.
                 No! He stays! *NM*ZackDark 2/15/12 9:25 p.m.
                       What? Where am I?padraig08 2/15/12 9:30 p.m.
                             Re: What? Where am I?ZackDark 2/15/12 9:31 p.m.
     Wooooo Weee! Great Update!padraig08 2/15/12 9:09 p.m.
     I still hate that armor.Phoenix_9286 2/15/12 9:22 p.m.
           I don't hate the armour, it just isn't the ChiefRC Master 2/15/12 9:38 p.m.
                 Re: I don't hate the armour, it just isn't the ChiZackDark 2/15/12 9:41 p.m.
                       Agreed *NM*davidfuchs 2/15/12 9:46 p.m.
                       Re: I don't hate the armour, it just isn't the ChiPhoenix_9286 2/15/12 9:52 p.m.
                             Re: I don't hate the armour, it just isn't the Chiuberfoop 2/15/12 9:57 p.m.
                             Re: I don't hate the armour, it just isn't the ChiVAVA Mk2 2/15/12 10:15 p.m.
                 Re: I don't hate the armour, it just isn't the ChiVAVA Mk2 2/15/12 10:13 p.m.
                 Re: I am warming up to the new armour.DEEP NNN 2/16/12 6:47 a.m.
           Why is the Chief starving to death?NsU Soldier 2/16/12 4:09 a.m.
                 Re: Why is the Chief starving to death?RC Master 2/16/12 5:27 a.m.
     looks like they heard us.. *NM*Pebbles 2/15/12 9:51 p.m.
     Wow!TDSpiral 2/15/12 10:43 p.m.
     the pic in the Bulletin = Nilla ♥ Chiefnillapuddin 2/15/12 10:57 p.m.
     Re: Armour woes aside...mattroe 2/15/12 11:00 p.m.
     Still don't like the shoulders....bluerunner 2/15/12 11:14 p.m.
           Re: Still don't like the shoulders....Pebbles 2/15/12 11:23 p.m.
           Re: Still don't like the shoulders....General Vagueness 2/16/12 9:11 p.m.
                 Re: Still don't like the shoulders....bluerunner 2/16/12 10:36 p.m.
                       Re: Still don't like the shoulders....General Vagueness 2/17/12 12:12 a.m.
     Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!Archilen 2/16/12 1:11 a.m.
           Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!Quirel 2/16/12 1:35 a.m.
     Sigh...Quirel 2/16/12 1:31 a.m.
           Re: Sigh...Archilen 2/16/12 4:05 a.m.
           Re: Sigh...General Vagueness 2/16/12 9:15 p.m.
     Clicked on link. Redirected me. Closed tab.MoltenSlowa 2/16/12 2:20 a.m.
           There can be only oneJDQuackers 2/16/12 7:50 a.m.
                 Re: There can be only oneRevenant1988 2/16/12 8:47 a.m.
                       Re: There can be only oneGrimBrother One 2/16/12 8:52 a.m.
                             Re: There can be only oneRevenant1988 2/16/12 10:43 a.m.
     Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!scarab 2/16/12 1:57 p.m.
     Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!General Vagueness 2/16/12 8:19 p.m.
           Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!JDQuackers 2/16/12 8:28 p.m.
     Re: Bip. Bop. Bulletin!General Vagueness 2/16/12 9:22 p.m.



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