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Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?
Posted By: urk <jurk@bungie.net>	Date: 12/3/11 1:13 a.m.
In Response To: Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road? (Schooly D) : And the disconnect was made even worse by the fact that : "default" Reach had/has very noncompetitive settings : (wacky/inappropriate Armor Abilities, slow movement speed, bloom on the : basic weapon(s) of the game ), making it necessary for competitive players : to alter many fundamental aspects of the game. "Default" Reach was playtested, and lauded, by MLG players long before it ever shipped, marking it as the first and only Halo title that was exposed to professional players and their feedback prior to launch. I distinctly recall players like Hysteria and Elamite Warrior noting that systems like bloom would be an incredible boon to skilled players. It's sort of en vogue now to trash it as a non-competitive, "casualized" game, even though it was vetted and influenced more significantly by MLG players than any other Halo title, ever. Part of me thinks that's sort of funny and ironic. Another part of me reads these posts and realizes that it's mostly sad. Live and learn.

Message Index

MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	RVideo	12/2/11 7:45 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/2/11 8:18 p.m.
Whoa now!!!	bryan newman	12/2/11 8:57 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	JDQuackers	12/2/11 9:32 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	bryan newman	12/3/11 12:24 a.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	RVideo	12/3/11 1:05 a.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	Bryan Newman	12/3/11 4:35 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	Bry	12/3/11 5:06 p.m.
Not quite true	Bryan newman	12/3/11 5:41 p.m.
Re: Not quite true	Bry	12/3/11 6:38 p.m.
That really depends.	uberfoop	12/3/11 6:46 p.m.
Err, wait.	uberfoop	12/3/11 6:48 p.m.
MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 7:42 p.m.
"Casual Weapons"	Spec ops Grunt	12/3/11 8:07 p.m.
I'm not trying to be insulting.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:29 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 8:33 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:41 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 8:45 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:47 p.m.
Pro = paid. Amateur = not paid.	Gravemind	12/5/11 4:12 a.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	Bry	12/3/11 9:12 p.m.
Re: I'm not trying to be insulting.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 10:18 p.m.
Oops	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 10:24 p.m.
It's my gamerzone...	RC Master	12/4/11 8:10 a.m.
Re: It's my gamerzone...	Bry	12/4/11 9:57 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bry	12/3/11 8:24 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 8:32 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 8:38 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bry	12/3/11 9:06 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 9:21 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Leviathan	12/3/11 9:39 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	bryan newman	12/3/11 9:56 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Leviathan	12/3/11 10:09 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	uberfoop	12/3/11 10:44 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	ZaneZavin	12/4/11 2:50 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bryan Newman	12/4/11 10:03 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	ZaneZavin	12/4/11 10:46 a.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bryan newman	12/4/11 12:21 p.m.
Re: MLG is not a requirement, merely a perk.	Bry	12/3/11 10:02 p.m.
Re: Hey Newman	Hedgemony	12/3/11 9:43 p.m.
Re: Hey Newman	bryan newman	12/3/11 9:53 p.m.
Re: Hey Newman	Hedgemony	12/3/11 10:14 p.m.
MLG: Hire Hedge.	Leviathan	12/3/11 10:29 p.m.
This	padraig08	12/3/11 11:26 p.m.
Re: This	Hyokin	12/4/11 11:10 a.m.
Sourced	padraig08	12/4/11 2:13 p.m.
Re: Sourced	Hyokin	12/4/11 9:10 p.m.
Re: Whoa now!!!	JDQuackers	12/3/11 7:37 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	davidfuchs	12/2/11 9:13 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SIX min WHISTLE	12/2/11 10:21 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Azo 'Galvat	12/3/11 12:11 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Pkmnrulz240	12/2/11 9:27 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	DEEP NNN	12/2/11 9:42 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/2/11 9:53 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SonGoharotto	12/2/11 10:30 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	DEEP NNN	12/3/11 5:54 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 11:15 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	DEEP NNN	12/3/11 2:40 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	JDQuackers	12/3/11 7:49 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 11:00 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	JDQuackers	12/3/11 5:26 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/3/11 8:11 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Flynn J Taggart	12/4/11 5:24 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/4/11 2:20 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/2/11 9:50 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	davidfuchs	12/2/11 10:26 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	urk	12/3/11 1:13 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 1:45 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	urk	12/3/11 10:19 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Azo 'Galvat	12/3/11 10:31 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 11:30 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	padraig08	12/3/11 2:32 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Spec ops Grunt	12/3/11 2:15 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	FyreWulff	12/3/11 4:25 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	GhaleonEB	12/3/11 8:11 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	FyreWulff	12/3/11 8:36 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Schooly D	12/3/11 10:44 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Joony Joon	12/3/11 11:38 a.m.
exactly	kidtsunami	12/4/11 4:26 p.m.
Re: exactly	uberfoop	12/4/11 4:51 p.m.
I think that it's a systematic adjustment	kidtsunami	12/4/11 5:23 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	uberfoop	12/4/11 5:44 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	kidtsunami	12/4/11 5:55 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	uberfoop	12/4/11 6:27 p.m.
we'll have to hedge it	kidtsunami	12/4/11 6:46 p.m.
Re: we'll have to hedge it	uberfoop	12/4/11 7:17 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	Anton P. Nym (aka Steve)	12/4/11 7:13 p.m.
Re: I think that it's a systematic adjustment	uberfoop	12/4/11 7:31 p.m.
I forgot to say	kidtsunami	12/4/11 5:24 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Overdoziz	12/2/11 10:37 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Pkmnrulz240	12/2/11 11:41 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Leviathan	12/3/11 12:28 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	bluerunner	12/3/11 2:26 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 10:20 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	ArteenEsben	12/4/11 6:50 a.m.
Twilight Sparkle?	RC Master	12/4/11 8:40 a.m.
Re: Twilight Sparkle?	Ibeechu	12/4/11 9:07 a.m.
Horsemeat? *NM*	Quirel	12/4/11 10:08 a.m.
Re: Twilight Sparkle?	Leviathan	12/4/11 12:06 p.m.
=O	thebruce0	12/4/11 6:47 p.m.
Re: =O	Leviathan	12/5/11 4:32 p.m.
O_O	HotIcePhoenix	12/4/11 11:19 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Quirel	12/3/11 1:02 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	SonofMacPhisto	12/3/11 11:08 a.m.
Adding my vote to the "Don't Care" column. *NM*	Phoenix_9286	12/2/11 11:15 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Flynn J Taggart	12/3/11 1:54 a.m.
So I watched quite a bit...	RC Master	12/3/11 5:52 a.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	NartFOpc	12/3/11 12:23 p.m.
Re: MLG and Halo: Is this the end of the road?	Kalamari	12/3/11 2:08 p.m.
Bloom is not the blue shell	kidtsunami	12/4/11 4:47 p.m.