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Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*
Posted By: Narcogen <narcogen@rampancy.net>Date: 9/15/10 10:54 p.m.

In Response To: Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP* (Kamerosa)


: I guess while it felt very overwhelming, you could never really get the scale
: of things. The whole game I felt like there should be more going on. The
: rail shooter parts of the falcon were fun, the civi transport getting shot
: down was a great move, but overall the whole "lone wolf" idea
: just stuck the whole way through and made no sense with Carter's "No
: more of that lonewolf stuff" line.

That depends what you're expecting. If you're expecting that Carter is a proxy for the author, telling you that this is a team game, and a lone wolf character really isn't needed in this scenario, then I suppose you can say it makes no sense.

I'd say it was deliberate. Carter tells you that so that the entire rest of the game can deliberately undermine that statement-- that the lone wolf was exactly what was required, and indeed, the only thing possible within that scenario.

I was expecting the tank part to
: be like the assault on the control room or the H3 equivalent with the
: scarabs, epic. It helped make everything you did seem insignificant but
: also made me wonder what Bungie was doing besides butchering the cannon
: (That is what killed the campaign for me, it made no sense at all, the
: covi invasion made no sense, and where the heck were the orbital MAC
: arrays?)

Game canon overrides all else. It is a primary source. The game can't butcher the canon, by definition. If there are inaccuracies or errors, they lie with the novels-- assuming they can't otherwise be reconciled.

: The space part really felt lame, it was novel in the halo universe but it was
: so short and the tactics of it so basic (Guns then missiles.... really?).

As opposed to....? All UNSC weapons are traditional projectiles of some sort (with the exception of the splazer, which given its size and long recharge time, seems like a first and primitive effort, except for its raw power).

: Maybe we'll get a DLC of a covi/unsc frigate battle! Now if only we could
: fly a pelican.... One last gripe is the weapons, the covi mini fuel rod
: gun was just absurd and the other weapons overall just didn't make sense
: from cannon.

What an odd statement. What canon source are you drawing on that leads you to call Reach's weapons nonsensical? In what way have Bungie ever let story canon get in the way of balancing weapons how they saw fit (H1 pistol).

: I love the new reticule, makes so much sense and makes the combat more
: realistic. The armor locks, so much fun to add some new variety,
: especially the hologram... very handy that one. In the end, we are really
: playing for the firefight and multiplay, but I was hoping the campaign
: would pull me back into it.

Not me. I play for campaign. And for firefight.

That and the game seemed really short, like
: ODST. I wish there was more!

Bad game! Making people want more of it. What were they thinking?

Why didn't we see 6 make reentry? How did the
: team end up in that cave? Why not a fighting banshees off in the back of
: the pelican while Carter died (Which I still don't understand how he got
: wounded... the canopy was untouched? And I wanted to kill a scarab!

Good grief. You didn't kill enough yet?

The first scarab in Halo 2 was interesting, but half-baked. H3 brought them into their own, and you killed solo ones twice and then a dual scarab battle.

In ODST another one attacks the player-- even though you're a lowly ODST and there's a fully armed Phantom in the sky.

I've no problems with Bungie sticking a fork in scarabs and calling them done.

I
: guess I'll have to see if I can do that on the last mission... take them
: all down! I was really hoping the armor choices would have effect on
: gameplay. Part of why I love CoD2 is the rpg aspect, really gives a reason
: to keep playing.

I'm pretty sure Bungie has been pretty consistent in their opposition to literal class-based gaming, and I support that decision. I don't think there would have ever been any reason to expect otherwise from Reach. Halo specialization is a conscious choice exercised by the player-- not add-ons earned by racking up experience points.

Armor set that gives more grenades at the expense of
: ammo, more mobility but less protection, 15% constant optical camo with
: weaker shields? Would have let people really customize their play.

I'd say AAs do that adequately. Any more and you're not customizing play-- you're customizing players.

: Maybe I just had my standards too high for Reach but it was not worth the $60
: I paid for it...

Good thing they haven't made used game sales illegal then yet...

Anger, Sadness and Envy Episode 20: Reach Spoilers



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What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Schooly D 9/15/10 1:01 p.m.
     Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Kamerosa 9/15/10 1:58 p.m.
           Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Narcogen 9/15/10 10:54 p.m.
                 Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Kamerosa 9/15/10 11:53 p.m.
                       Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Kamerosa 9/15/10 11:54 p.m.
                       Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Narcogen 9/16/10 4:54 a.m.
                       Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Kermit 9/16/10 4:38 p.m.
     Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*SonofMacPhisto 9/15/10 2:16 p.m.
           Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Jillybean 9/15/10 2:27 p.m.
                 Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*SonofMacPhisto 9/15/10 2:36 p.m.
                 Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*T07WRX5 9/15/10 2:46 p.m.
                       Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Schooly D 9/15/10 2:48 p.m.
                             Re: What I liked about Halo: Reach *SP*Jillybean 9/15/10 2:53 p.m.
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