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Flames69
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:51 pm  Reply with quote



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Every submission I make get's a falied grade. I even submitted a very in depth, full of content, tutorial on how to find and perform Super Bounces. I also included TONS of information and rules about them. I also spent a good amount of time editing. So when I get the email to look at my final grade, I had failed but everybody said it was really good and so on. ONE person said he was not going to pass a vid that teaches people how to teach. That's the most ignorant statement I've ever heard. Especailly coming from somebody that rates vids here at HBO. Super Bouncing is NOT considered cheating (it was in a Bungie.net Weekly What's Update, they stated it CLEARLY). I figure that if I made a tutorial for people to see, that it would help out the people who don't know how to Super Bounce because it's not fair that they don't know how to when other people do (most people Super Bounce in MatchMaking, so this would help them defend against others that are Super Bouncing). Thats all I have to say. I'm just wondering how one person can not like a vid and FAIL it. It's amazing.


Here are the links to my vid Super Bouncing for Dummies

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KP
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:26 pm  Reply with quote



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Flames69 wrote:
Every submission I make get's a falied grade. I even submitted a very in depth, full of content, tutorial on how to find and perform Super Bounces. I also included TONS of information and rules about them. I also spent a good amount of time editing. So when I get the email to look at my final grade, I had failed but everybody said it was really good and so on. ONE person said he was not going to pass a vid that teaches people how to teach. That's the most ignorant statement I've ever heard. Especailly coming from somebody that rates vids here at HBO. Super Bouncing is NOT considered cheating (it was in a Bungie.net Weekly What's Update, they stated it CLEARLY). I figure that if I made a tutorial for people to see, that it would help out the people who don't know how to Super Bounce because it's not fair that they don't know how to when other people do (most people Super Bounce in MatchMaking, so this would help them defend against others that are Super Bouncing). Thats all I have to say. I'm just wondering how one person can not like a vid and FAIL it. It's amazing.


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You're looking for the main HBO Forum here. Also, typically HIH is where you're going to want to go with an instructional video on superjumping or any type of trick.
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SteveOll
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:19 am  Reply with quote



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Even if its not considered 'cheating' its not in the spirit of good sportmanship if you are using a technique that gives your an unfair advantage that a) Bungie did not intend for usage in the game (i.e. a bug or 'undocumented feature') and b) that not everyone is aware of how to pull off. e.g. using the superjump to have an otherwise inaccessable sniping perch.

If your are doing this in a non-matchmaking game, e.g. glitching and custom games I suppose thats okay as no ranking is involved, but if you're doing this in a matchmaking game then in my opinion its the same as dummying or modding.
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KP
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:17 am  Reply with quote



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SteveOll wrote:
Even if its not considered 'cheating' its not in the spirit of good sportmanship if you are using a technique that gives your an unfair advantage that a) Bungie did not intend for usage in the game (i.e. a bug or 'undocumented feature') and b) that not everyone is aware of how to pull off. e.g. using the superjump to have an otherwise inaccessable sniping perch.

If your are doing this in a non-matchmaking game, e.g. glitching and custom games I suppose thats okay as no ranking is involved, but if you're doing this in a matchmaking game then in my opinion its the same as dummying or modding.


I think superjumping is just as cheatful as the rest of the cheats, but because Bungie can't fix it, it's not a cheat but a feature!
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SteveOll
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:57 am  Reply with quote



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KP wrote:
SteveOll wrote:
Even if its not considered 'cheating' its not in the spirit of good sportmanship if you are using a technique that gives your an unfair advantage that a) Bungie did not intend for usage in the game (i.e. a bug or 'undocumented feature') and b) that not everyone is aware of how to pull off. e.g. using the superjump to have an otherwise inaccessable sniping perch.

If your are doing this in a non-matchmaking game, e.g. glitching and custom games I suppose thats okay as no ranking is involved, but if you're doing this in a matchmaking game then in my opinion its the same as dummying or modding.


I think superjumping is just as cheatful as the rest of the cheats, but because Bungie can't fix it, it's not a cheat but a feature!


Yeah its a feature alright - a glitch or 'undocumented feature' which is another term for 'bug' just as sword flying was (although that was fun in custom games).
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Lethal Industry
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:34 am  Reply with quote



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Sword jumping is fun, but Its almost impossible to use in matchmaking. Because you cant lock on to your teammates, you're gonna have to find a willing member of the opposing team to let you sword cancel off of him up to a spot where you can easily kill him and the rest of his teammates and therefore making him lose the match and possibly lower his rank.

Now honestly, who wants to do that? Besides the ogre brothers.
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SteveOll
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:58 am  Reply with quote



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Lethal Industry wrote:
Sword jumping is fun, but Its almost impossible to use in matchmaking. Because you cant lock on to your teammates, you're gonna have to find a willing member of the opposing team to let you sword cancel off of him up to a spot where you can easily kill him and the rest of his teammates and therefore making him lose the match and possibly lower his rank.

Now honestly, who wants to do that? Besides the ogre brothers.


Yeah sword flying was fun when you play along with friends just for a laugh.
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Fabricated
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:46 am  Reply with quote



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With super bouncing I think it is completely a matter of opinion. As far as bungie is concerned, it is technically not a cheat, as far as sportsmanship, well then it just a cheap way to win. It is cheap, but not a cheat. If people want to do that and not be respected. Fine, eventually they will have to play against people have much more skill and self respect, real gamers. Not to say that people who use the super jump are bad people and should be ban or anything, but eventually they will stop having fun, get bored, and be not only owed but criticized by the better players who they will be matched against but not have the resort of using those things. People shouldn't spend the time finding all the little cracks in the game, but rather practicing. Getting getter and having fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 1:24 pm  Reply with quote






The point of my vid is to teach the people who DON'T know how to Super Bounce how to find/perfrom them. This will help THEM out in the future when they get matched up with Super Bouncers.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:03 pm  Reply with quote



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This is stupid, and it doesn't belong here. Take it to the HBO forums if you really want to rehash a discussion that has already been beaten to death.
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